I think you will find it's 0.1 seconds and the rest is Alonso :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
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I think you will find it's 0.1 seconds and the rest is Alonso :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Priceless!Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
I think they should change the title of the thread: "Ferrari haters thread" would be more suitable :laugh: or at least "Ferrari fair weather fans thread" to be at least in tone with the starters true identity :laugh: . Looking at the last pages it looks more and more like a corpse devoured by hyenas :laugh:
Rather change to 'The Alonso's arse kisser thread' to reflect your true identity.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
PS: Did they already cut your salary by 25%? :p :
I have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I´m not like you Ioan. I don´t love him. It´s just more fun to watch like this. Once upon a time I was praying for Kimi to kick Alonso´s ass. So don´t relate to me. I don´t share your man-love for a driver. I don´t even think it´s normal.
PS: I didn´t start this bogus thread so there´s no reason to name it after me.
And if FM was leading the two in points I'd be listening to derogatory comments like "Massa Baby" (when not bashing Fred)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Yes the first two comments right out of the boxQuote:
Originally Posted by eu
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I think you will find it's 0.1 seconds and the rest is Alonso
You guys need some new material!Quote:
Priceless!
That sh!+'s gotten really old :dozey:
The title, and link I posted was about Ferrari. More specifically about what has been done at the factory. It was not about either pilot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Your just Gumpy because of the fact that FM isn't beating FA, and Mike chances at winning the WDC or even having a fight for it are all but history!
You need to find another basket to put all your eggs in! :)
Btw, if Alonsos driving is worth 6 tenths and something blowing from his rear another 7 tenths, doesnt that come close to 1.3 secs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Why are you asking me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
another post without mentioning Santander. Congrats. Judging by Massa's pace i think it 6 tenths are a sign of modesty :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
aren't the tifosi supposed to support the team regardless of the drivers who are in the team :?:
Wasnt really, sorry. Just a general q.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Well thank you. The Santander stuff is old by now, as everyone knows Freddie was bought in with Spanish money. I think the big lesson for everyone in this is that no contract is certain. Theres a price for everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
But speaking about Freddie and the fact that he drives like a complete tool at the moment: does this make the Alonso-to-Ferrari move a stupid one and very expensive at the moment?
BTW, I dont think Ferraris pace is due to the drivers at the moment. Under current management they will win absolutely zip this year or the coming years. The sooner they realise this and act accordingly, the shorter time the tifosi will suffer. But thats F1, you have your ups and downs.
Excellent post :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
And yes, I do need some new material ;)
Yes, we always support the team, no matter what. The problem is the crappy drivers they have been employing the last few years, we dont support them :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by harsha
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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
There's nothing wrong with drivers or the Team, just others have done a better job so far. Keep the faith as all real tifosi do ;)
Amen brother! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
You'ld like to believe that, but it simply is not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
You’re jumping the gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
Let's wait a few more races since they have one pilot that is only 15 points off the lead with major upgrades coming forthwith.
BTW Chew on this! Fred even gives your man Kimi a compliment.
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One of the many interesting things to come out of the Canadian Grand Prix was the re-emergence of Fernando Alonso as a title contender. Not that he ever wasn’t – it just seemed for many weeks as if the Red Bulls and McLarens were getting away from him, especially in Turkey where Ferrari were very poor indeed.
And yet, incredibly, Alonso would have topped the standings had he won on Sunday (and he was absolutely adamant that he could have), which says as much for Alonso’s ability to keep putting in solid drives as it does for the media’s almost exclusive focus on the McLaren v Red Bull fight.
Now the talk from Maranello is of “aggressive pushes” and new exhaust systems for Valencia, with team bosses having admitted they spent too much time and effort trying to match McLaren’s F-duct.
Alonso is bullish. “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again now, this is a stage event and the final one of those stages will not come until November in Abu Dhabi,” the two-time world champion said. “There is still a long way to go and things can change very quickly, going either one way or the other.
“People seem to have forgotten that last year, in the middle part of the season and in a car that was getting ever less competitive, Kimi [Raikkonen] was the driver who scored the most points.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/t...yping-to-rest/
Well, I have difficulty supporting the team, as Luca seems to be turning into a very sour old man and I don't like his idea if national team.
But i can't help myself. When I see the red cars, the feeling is special and nothing can change that. This is Ferrari, after all, and the fact that I happen to like Alonso is another bonus.
So I continue to cheer for them - although I admit that I enjoy the victories of some other drivers and teams as well.
Apparently the budget defecit of Spain is rather large, Fred's tax bill alone will go alone way to keep the country afloat...... ;)
You and I must have a different definition of the word team. I consider the drivers to be part of the team. You, it seems, do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
What about the mechanics then. By your logic/definition, if they employ crappy mechanics, you will support the team, but not the mechanics?
Same can be asked of the engineers, owners, and the guys that mow the lawn. "I support the Team, but not those crappy drivers, mechanics, engineers, support staff......"
My definition would include all of them as part of the team. A team is like a body, it may have stronger & weaker parts but you accept it (and it works best) as a whole. You don't gouge out your eyes if they are weak - you get glasses.
Looks like your definition could exclude any part - if for some reason you disapprove of it.
Sounds to me as if you're a fan of a big shiny red building, and nothing more.
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Originally Posted by Firstgear
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Ferrari are doomed as I se it. Only copying other teams, nothing new of their own. Alonso bar the Santander money is no Kimi.
Apparently Spain´s deficit is almost as large as the UK´s but anyhow, Fred doesn´t even pay taxes in Spain....... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
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Well, either Fred knows something or his just plain stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Drivers come and go (mechanics, managers etc included) but Ferrari remains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
:confused: But aren't they "PART" of the team while they're there? So, what you're saying is that if a "crappy" driver wins the championship for Ferrari, you won't be as happy for them as when let's say your favorite driver wins the championship? So, then if your loyalties dwindle because of the drivers, then are you really supporting the team?Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
It's funny how sometimes Schumacher fans call themselves Ferrari fans or "Tifosi" while he's there and jump ship as soon as he leaves or is driving for another team. The man-love for him displayed by some on this forum is truly amazing.
There wasn't anything wrong with the drivers last year...I see a pattern here.Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Yes, drivers, mechanics etc all form part of the greater whole of the team, but I support the Ferrari name/brand, not individuals. The team is broken up whenever there is a personnel position change, be it driver or behind the scene's personnel. I support the Ferrari brand, which never changes :)Quote:
Originally Posted by X-ecutioner
No, he has two championships instead of one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
:laugh: :up: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Fred takes a few laps around Fiorno in F10 (b) for a promotional filming event.
WTF :evil:
Apparently they are not using their (not technically) gill vents. But I will be very surprised if they don't have them for a proper running.
The quality of these pics actually makes it too difficult to tell.
http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/v...or/ferrari.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8868/dibujoqq.png
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6425/dibujoxpj.png
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_m_x0R_80hkI/TB...0%20234544.jpg
The vid is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOZeeMZ6W4
Well, mate - try to tell seriously now, what would you prefer. P1 as an international Ferrari or P4 as an Italian Ferrari?Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
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Originally Posted by jens
Make up your mind mate. You can't have it both ways :dozey:Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
And it was Ron Dennis who apolgized to Kimi for the team let the Finn down which would have seen him win at LEAST 5 more GP's than he did and a world title.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Secondly, Kimi won his title with Ferrari in his FIRST season with the Scuderia.
It is not that easy to win a title with Ferrari - not many drivers have done so and in their first year?
I'd say that Kimi leads Fernando in this.
Of course the ultimate as a racing driver for Ferrari is to win the title in the first year, and clinching the title by winning the Italian Grand Prix at Monza!
Not many have done THAT. The tifosi will adore you forever - just ask Jody what its like when he visits Italy :D :D :D
Season isn't over yet...I will answer you at the end of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Horrible resolution, but I can only work with what I have!
Here is an end-to-end comparison Between the RB6, the Ferrari F10 that raced in Turkey, and the new F10b that had a little shakedown in Fiorno yesterday
Its crappy photography but you can see the dramatic change around the rear of the f10b
http://f1around.files.wordpress.com/...to-do-f103.jpg
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Originally Posted by Tazio
My question does not mean that Ferrari will in fact finish 4th. It's more a hypothetical question based on the notion that if Italians like Ferrari to become Italian, would they like it at any cost and compromise. Oh, and by the way while we are at it, Ferrari factually finished 4th in the 2009 WCC...Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
I find rhetorical questions of this nature serve only one purpose;Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
To insight the masses in this arena/forum! And in my humble fucI<ing opinion Jens,
I had considered you much better than that :rolleyes:
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Anyway as long as Ferrari keep hiring only Italians it will be impossible for them to have the best technical team, unless an Italian is best in the world in each domain, which obviously isn't the case.
That wasn't a question, it was a statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Given how good you consider yourself you should have known it. :p