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Any photos from Finnskogsvalsen?
Yep, there are photos on backmansfoto.se. There are also two youtube videos if you search for finnskogsvalsen. One is an interview and one is action shots. I made a short summary in English of what was said in the interview and posted it to my blog, so if you don't speak Swedish/Norweigan you might want to take a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Thanks swordsman - very helpful. I'm starting to recognise Norwegian I read it so much but there are some idioms I still can't get.
At finnskogvalsen Petter said that the main difference between his car and Loebs is the gearbox. Loebs is 4 kg lighter. Petter had been offered the gearbox for € 1.000.000 :eek: Should be cheaper ways to save 4 kg :rolleyes:
Yeah - he said he would have to lose 4kg himself ;)
His hair must weigh more than that now! :D
LOL ..... nice nice i see the propaganda started early this year....Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Now what does that 'Solberg excuses' mean then?
N.O.T - out of interest, what would you do or think if Petter did end up winning the 2010 WDC, or even if he won a couple of rallies? You seem to put him down so much, but would you be willing to eat your words?
I'm not saying Petter will win, but just wondering what your reaction would be if he did.
It is very unlikeley that he will win the WDC, so don't worry.
I know that but just wondering if N.O.T is capable of giving credit where it's due.
I don't think he is capable of giving credit.
Listening to Petter I don't think this gearbox thing was in any way meant as an excuse. He just underlined that it's expensive to be on top - and at the same time he indicated that he has better things to do with that amount of money that probably gives more result... That's my interpretation.
That's everyone's opinion except N.O.T's!
LOL...okQuote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
One picture from Finnskogsvalsen...
He had really good speed..
They still speak it up North, most of the place names are obviously from just across the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Best thing is to say things aloud, LISTEN and it makes much more sense, so say it yourself, you'll hear.
Petter has planned 26 days of testing this season as his "secret" weapon against the works drivers who are limited to 15?
http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/sport/spill/verdi/121534
Would be interesting to see the differences in the gearbox. Are the bearings better, the shafts made of titanium or unobtanium? I can't see the cost in those sort of dollars. I know what it takes to build a good gearbox and I don't think there's that sort of money there.
Ray
You missed one point - intellectual property of whoever invented/designed this gearbox, problably biggest cost since this product is not in mass production.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
I agree, it certainly would be an interesting lesson in engineering design!Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
I had to laugh at Petters comment about having to loose 4kg to counter act the weight difference between the 2 gearboxes.
On the topic of different components, I was under the impression that there were to be no new homological components for the 2010 season and any performance gains would be found purely in setup of existing components.
If Petter has a 2009 car, how can Loab and Sordo have a different gearbox?
Have I missed something?
I'm just guessing, but I'd have thought it's just the standard car given to everyone except Loeb and maybe Sordo. Ogier, Kimi and Petter's car is probably early 2009, whereas Loeb and Sordo will have the last evolution of it from late 2009. Not a huge difference.
Mr Solberg should stop living in his own universe and realise that if he was good enough he would be chosen by a manufacturer....now that he is a HAS BEEN with no future or present in the sport he has to realise that he cannot get the same equipment for free....this is a plus for him since all the yes men and himself have excuses ready.
No other privateer in the history of the sport cries like that all the time....its getting ridiculous....if he likes rallying and wants to stay in the frame he must shut up and enjoy driving. Generating excuses all the time leads no where.
N.O.T - I get your point but surely Petter is a unique example. He is one of the most talented privateers in recent times and surely deserves a Manufacturer seat ahead of JML, or in any other time there would be more than 2 manufacturers to choose from. He is the 4th best rally driver in the world in most people's views - and that reputation is based on driving cr@p cars since 2004 and even a 5 year old car last year.
And you go on about excuses - he has put forward no excuses since he got a C4. His reasons for failure in the Xsara were obvious - it's an old and slow car. He also had a reason for poor performancs in the two events with the C4 - everyone needs a couple of rallies to get used to a new car. 2010 will be different - he can have a bit of leeway (sp?) in Sweden for his first event but after that there are no excuses except lack of technical support perhaps. Let's wait till a few rallies in before we rubbish Mr. Solberg.
N.O.T When I want to be old and grumpy you will be my role model :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Petter is just saying that is very little differences between his and Loeb`s car, he probably has the same car as Ogier and Kimi, he also says that he will try to make up the differences by being better in other areas testing, fitness, team spirit and such.
He also says he hasn’t been so confident at the start of the season since 2004 :up:
FCOL - N.O.T what person are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It seems you want to misunderstand everything about Petter. Why are you so against him?
If a journalist asks you answer - right? Is that an excuse or what?
Petter need as every driver to have a good relation to media and sponsors. That means you´ll hear a lot and every thing that he said recently isnt about excuses.
Please go to chatroom for girls if you so much like to make jealousy of other people. Teenage girls like that. :mad:
Yeah, and according to Quesnel, the main reasons for not putting Petter in instead of Sordo. The spanish market is important to Citroen... Petter and Loeb in the same team, could be more difficult to handle (reading: Petter would probably not slow down, if needed)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
The most interesting thing is thread actually has 90700 views. It says Mr. Solberg has the capacity to make the people talk about him (meanwhile the rest are really boring.....). It also implies publicity, money, sponsors attraction and charism... Something I don't see since Gronholm, Mc Rae, etc. I also think Mr. N.O.T. enjoys writing against him because nobody will reply if he talk about i.e. Ogier or Rautenbach. Lets see whats happen with Petter this year; I bet he will be fighting to win
he slowed down for Burns so i cannot see why he wouldn;t for Loeb.....but better hire an up and comming driver than a HAS BEEN paper champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Lousy....... you makes me sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It must be the bitterness and envy of not once in history having a greek world class rally driver to support, that makes you write crap like this. :disturb:Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Translation for the video posted earlier (NRK.no):
Petter: "That was the best run yet, it worked well right off the bat. The car is so beautifully balanced."
Commentator: "...This year he'll be fighting on equal teams with the works Citröen drivers. Q: Will you be allowed to win?"
Petter: "They have said, and we have agreed upon that I can fight and fight to win. There will be no team orders or anything like that since we're driving the same car. And I have to trust them when they say that."
Petter (after playing around about eating or not eating the sausage): "I've planned 26 days of testing this year, which is nine days more than Loeb. So we're trying to do everything better with regards to both car testing and physical fitness."
I for one wish him the best and I love to see how he is really doing an effort to compete instead of giving up or making scarce appearances at selected rounds. I will support him this year.
That's a bit unfair towards others (read: normal greeks), isn't it? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
I am looking foward to your reaction when he does win a rally! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I think I will agree with that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald
That is a 'N.O.T excuse' :uhoh:
To continue the thread: Petter Solberg confirmed today that he is ready to take part in the "Svully Rally Dahbi" event coming saturday in Norway. Here he will meet (among others) Marcus Grønholm in direct competition.
"Svully Rally Dahbi" is an invitation rally, based in the little community Svulrya in the Finnskogen area, close to the border of Sweden. It has in earlier years been a central point and service area for the "Rally Finnskog" european championship rally. The unique thing about this rally is that it has nearly no road sections at all. Three different stages will be run around Svulrya in a loop, and the loop will be run three times. Total number of stages is nine, totalling 140 km SS-distance. Road sections will in total be something like 10-15 kms. So competitors will actually drive a full WRC-event one-day SS-distance with nearly no road sections at all, in only a few hours.
In addition to Petter Solberg and Marcus Grønholm, Andreas Mikkelsen, Patrick Sandell and PG Andersson wil also drive in this event - as it is a great opportunity to test ahead of Rally Sweden. The location of the "Svully Rally" is - as mentioned - close to the swedish border and not far away from stages in the swedish WRC-event. Road caracterics are quite similar to Rally Sweden.
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Originally Posted by Iskald
Link to follow the event ??? :confused:
Don't think there is one. I've searched far and wide with no luck.