right here Gary, from page 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
Sorry you're so upset.
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right here Gary, from page 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
Sorry you're so upset.
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Originally Posted by sanguin
I am still waiting for something besides a duck and weave. There is NOTHING in that quote to indicate the series is in the black. It only says that there are no subsidies to the teams. How the hell does that equate to turning a profit? I still await your proof.
Gary
Well, here is my opinion.
Once upon a time, there was a poster who used the screen name Zero.
He posted a lot on 7th Gear in its day, posted for a while right here. He even posted for about 2 days on TF before he got his fanny bumped off.
He had no sources. As he told me once, he was just smarter than all the rest of us, and able to figure "all this stuff out by the things he read on the forums."
He was NEVER wrong, no matter how off the wall his predictions. Even when proven wrong, he would tell you why he was right anyway.
At times, he told us he was a journalist. At times, he told us he was an insider. At times, he told us he was "just a fan."
Back then, he was telling us why CART, in spite of the dropping stock prices, was on the verge of greatness. Back then, he was telling us that the IRL would never answer the bell "next year."
He never used spaces after his commas; funny habit for a "journalist," I thought.
Basically, he made a fool of himself, and no one, on EITHER side of the split, could stomach him. That is a pretty rare talent.
He probably did more to bring the two side together, in his way, than anyone at that time I can think of.
My opinion is that Zero has returned. I just wonder why he changed his screen name?
Just an opinion, mind you...
It was late 2003 and a certain OWRS leader (who resembles a Klingon) told me and an associate that Champ Car would be "in the black within 18 months". Then in late 2004 the same man stated that "the series would break even by the end of 2005"; at the end of 2005 this prescient fellow told me that "the company will break even in 2006". Now Sanguin is telling us ChampCar is finally in the back. Whew, this comes as such a relief to me because I can't see how they have managed to do it given the lack of any real income outside of the sanction fees. If this is all true like Sanguin claims, there is hope for two open wheel racing series in North America after all. It also means that the Indy Car Series must be making serious money now by comparison since it has the Indy 500, a TV contract that pays the series rather than the other way around, teams with sponsorship, promoters playing sanction fees and a manufacturer that activiates with advertising beyond the race broadcasts. The IRL also still has a pulse on network and cable TV, as opposed to Champ Car. Please, Sanguin, help us understand those boffo Champ Car ratings from Europe and do take a moment out of your busy bee ChampCar cheerleading schedule to explain why the Indy Car Series also has a larger audience on the web. Also please tell us how all this can be happening given that the IRL is supposedly on death's door.
The subject of this thread is what happens next so I simply can't wait for more fantastic news from Sanguin and his friends who are now running Champ Car like a business. I also hope they never are involved in any business I am involved with given their "success". I have one burning question for Sanguin: If you are just a fan, how do you know the financial details of OWRS and the Champ Car World Series? It really is a fair question given all you claim to know.
Yea Gary, I want more proof too for alot of things on this forum, and I keep asking,but I don't think I'm going to get it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
At least I have good news, most stuff is just to denigrate the series.IMHO
see you 2008!
Who cares about the IRL? They don't have any bearing on CC's business plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaimWitz
You should listen to yourself. Stop comparing IRL since, as we speak, they are in a better road than CC. What business plan? I don't see IRL getting their schedule getting cancelled event every year. This year, CC had two. If you think, sorry that's understated. Let me rephrase, if you want to believe that CC is in good standing, tell me what is bad standing for you? So if you want to bash IRL, this is not the place for that. We're not interested in your broad anti-IRL and especially your wishful thinking of CC. There's another site for that kind of thinking, I think you already came from that place.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanguin
Slow down, my man. You're not impressing anyone here and soon no one would wish and waste time reading your posts. Let alone talking to you. Take it easy.
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Originally Posted by sanguin
I'm still waiting. You made the statement that OWRS is making a profit. I am still waiting for you to back up that statement. I could care less what YOU are waiting on. So now you are saying you have no proof is that correct? You are now saying you just made this statement up, is that correct?
You don't have good news. You have illogical pronouncements that make OWRS fans look stupid. We aren't. You are NOT helping the cause.
Gary
That is YOUR opinion.I guess that says it all.Question,this is the CC forum for CC fans ,right? You seem to be a fan of IRL ,they have a forum too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cart750hp
Yes I am a fan of CC and want them to succeed,or I wouldn't be posting in the CC forum.
how many times do I have to post it-Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
Sure, It's my opinion ,just like others with no links. It's my opinion from people I know and from what I've "heard". Happy? I said you don't have to believe it, take it for what it is.I don't have to believe anyone else who doesn't have proof either no matter how posts they have.
As far as damaging anything ,that's YOUR opinion.I think unfound rumors are much more damaging and are being used to denigrate the series.That's MY opinion.
If CC being solvent makes you mad, I can't help you.
I guess you rather believe the others and their agenda, so be it. IMO