2012 Presidential Race

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps2857bd23.jpg

---

No, they couldn't.
Another lie.
You're too lazy to read more than posters, but all adults know that all the heavily so called "Conservative" areas in the whole country are all the areas where direct Government cash infusions and subsidies are the highest.
The US South has the highest percentage of Federal aid and always have.Highest % of Food Stamps, welfare, farm aid, military bases--which is direct free money, tax rebates to corporations to locate; they could not survive without outside aid---from Progressives.
The only reason they have water, roads, electricity, schools, harbors, railroads, is because the hard working people in the rest of the country pay their taxes and the Feds send them money..
In the Western half of the whole country the population density is too low to justify building roads, railroads, water, electricity generation and distribution, postal service, schools, universities based on the local population tax base, so us Progressive tax payers tax ourseleves and subsidise the empty parts. That's true on the county level, true on the State level.
Farmers---and agribusiness live and die on subsidies and price guarantees and publicly provided transport network..along with generous deductions at tax time---that's Progressive policy and changed the rural parts of the country from being backwards, atavistic poor regions frozen in their development---to being able to make everybody in the country not just fed, but fat---and export their wheat and grains and "stuff" to the rest of the world, even if they are still black-holes of logic.

Conservatives without liberal political and economic and credit policies would have died generations ago..

Danicaboy, you disrespect the very policies which made the country great..
We all know what the country looked like before all the modern liberal/progressive policies raised the whole country up.
People, over 90% lived in utter poverty, died on average 20 years earlier from preventable diseases like tuberculosis aggravated by poor diets thru their lifetimes..

Vote whatever you want, but learn a bit of reality and stop with these absurd, brainless nonsensical posters.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BDunnell

I think it's in posts like the two above to which you refer that the deficiencies in education mentioned earlier are demonstrated most clearly. I say this entirely seriously. They are typical of a person who simply does not want to learn, to be informed — the mark of an individual happy to wallow in their own ignorance, and entirely comfortable with others considering them ignorant.

---

On a related note, you may have read about the Conservative push to link teacher pay and even continued employment to "student achievement" allegedly (actually it's all about destroying unions and suppressing wages of teachers who teach other people's kids that they don't think are as worthy as their own kids)..

I counter that teachers can only do so much when there is a culture of resistence to even reading---much less thinking----and this guy Danicawannabe is an excellent example of why teacher's pay should never be linked to what possibly recalcitrant and obstinate children decide to do.

Good info in, garbage out--on purpose. What can the society do?

John, reading your posts on this topic, I feel bad about having got into an argument with you on Assange, etc.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BDunnell

John, reading your posts on this topic, I feel bad about having got into an argument with you on Assange, etc.

---

Oh don't feel bad about getting into an argument, misunderstandings can pop up anywhere and where you least expect. If this were a Monty Python skit we'd cue the clashing organs now and the guys would jump out in Cardinal's outfits...wait----? um never mind.

Only thing I thought kind of 'no fun" and confusing was this kind of vaguely dismissive thing that you do sometimes and did there which I presume comes from you not liking not the content or the implied ideas I was writing but the mode or 'authorial voice' which I tend to write in.. Thing is on written forums I tend to look at these things as more conversation, like at a pub or a quiet party at home, not stylized debate, not lectures, but talk---which is why I play with languages, spellings, etc since we don't have sound, voice, inflection and importantly nuance....
Some of the misunderstanding may be just a strongly differing conversational style grown out of vastly different social and cultural backgrounds and that's something that I had to struggle against with myself to not dismiss people soley because the sounded like a "gawddam hick" or "a pommie bastid" or_______________ (insert generic term for foreign worker)( Oh! Snap! I was a foreign worker!!)
I learned eventually to listen to not just the words, but the intent, their hope in words.

I honestly dont know how anyone could vote for Obama. Wow, it just baffles me. The guy has done nothing good for this country...

Increased debt to over 16 Trillion
43 months of Unemployment over 8%
Wasted billions of taxpayer money on Solyndra and other green-energy scams.
Given Billions of taxpayer money to foreign countries and these same countries are attacking us.
A gallon of gas when he took office average 1.84 a gallon, now its 3.84 average
Our Credit rating has plummeted.
Lack of immigration policies and enforcement. He wants to give them money, feed them, license them.... I dont get that
Decrease military funding

Oh, I could go on and on.

If you guys seriously think another 4 years of this will be good for the country or things will change, you are greatly mistaken. Oh, they will change but for the worse. Go see Obama 2016. America will fall quickly under his regime another 4 years. We cannot afford it.

Voting for Obama in November and expecting more empty promises with his already proven failed policies is basically insanity. Not going to happen.

Reminds me of the words of Albert Einstein...

Insanity...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I served in the military and defended this country and the right to say this.... Obama is a moron. lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

I honestly dont know how anyone could vote for Obama. Wow, it just baffles me. The guy has done nothing good for this country...

Increased debt to over 16 Trillion
43 months of Unemployment over 8%
Wasted billions of taxpayer money on Solyndra and other green-energy scams.
Given Billions of taxpayer money to foreign countries and these same countries are attacking us.
A gallon of gas when he took office average 1.84 a gallon, now its 3.84 average
Our Credit rating has plummeted.
Lack of immigration policies and enforcement. He wants to give them money, feed them, license them.... I dont get that
Decrease military funding

Oh, I could go on and on.

---

You are going on and on, you posted essentially the same thing a few days ago and had every single point proven to be a lie.
Here: explain this:
http://66.70.86.64/ChartServer/ch.ga...&Unit=US%20$/G

Explain why the gas prices were higher under the Republican regime..
And give us a suggestion on what any President is supposed to do to control gas prices...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

I served in the military and defended this country and the right to say this.... Obama is a moron. lol[/LEFT]

---

Do you seriously expect anyone to see such a statement and consider you to be someone whose view deserves to be taken seriously?

Honestly, you seem to have real difficulty even comprehending the points being put to you, let alone addressing or debating them.

I know the facts, I got the facts. I dont watch CNN, MSNBC and all that other liberal media out there that only gives you what they want you to hear..half-truths, etc.

You need to watch FOX News. They have it all layed out there, the whole truth and not afraid to say it. Not some biased media outlet that caters to the liberals.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DanicaFan

I

Reminds me of the words of Albert Einstein...

Insanity...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I served in the military and defended this country and the right to say this.... Obama is a moron. lol

---

You can't get anything right it seems:

Quote:

---

The answer isn't really known but current consensus is that it came from the author Rita Mae Brown in her book Sudden Death on Pg. 68 from 1983.

Quote: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results."

Most people will attribute this quote to Albert Einstein but there is no evidence to suggest that he made this statement.

This quote "Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results" appears in the Basic Text of Narcotics Anonymous which was copyrighted in 1982 and later published in 1983. It is found on page 11 of the final "Review Form" which was distributed to the fellowship in November of 1981. It is found on page 23 of the current sixth edition.

---

Whenever I hear people claiming right to speak---granted every human by birth and enshrined in the 1st Amendment, but when I hear them claim because they couldn't get a job so they took the easy way out and signed up I feel compelled to ask:
When were you in the military and what were your position/duties, and where were you stationed?

The world can be the judge of if you "defended" this country, or if you were just another guy public assistance.
Or if you were busy making the world safe for Exxon and GM.


Now despite the rather painful fact that you don't seem very bright at all, SEEM I stress--it could be that you just express yourself poorly---maybe you don't know it but morons dont do this:

Quote:

---

(Obama) After graduating with a J.D. magna cum laude^[42] from Harvard in 1991,

---

Now I ran a small race/rally oriented shop just blocks from Harvard and down the road from MIT and while i was shocked at the ignorance and arrogance and insularity of the young people i ran into. and could see much obvious difference between the local Masshole townies and the students in their behavior

And we know that virtually anybody can get IN, if daddy and Grandpa give those Ivy League schools enough millions but

But do you really think a moron can FINISH "magna cum laude" from law school?

I am positive you have no idea what magna cum laude means so here:

• magna cum laude, meaning "with great honor" [/*:m:3l51sh6l]

You obviously blindly hate Obama, we have a good idea why, but only a mormon would call him a moron...

Oh did I spell that wrong?