Do You Know the Real Islam?

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9th January 2012, 03:54
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by henners88

Some of the recent comments on this page are quite disturbing IMO. Radical Muslims or fundamentalist Christians? Perhaps we could have a poll on which is scarier? :eek:

Well if the few thousands of corpses, in the past ten years, resulting from followers of the Koran, does not convince you, nothing will as your bias is overwhelmingly skewed.
9th January 2012, 03:57
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Is there any actual difference? That is, setting aside the names of the various parties involved- and the problem that most of the fundamentalist christians are hypocrites....something which can not be said for radical Muslims who are simply practicing what is preached in the Koran.

Sadly that is too true, while one may loath what Muslims do, one has to admire their loyalty and devotion to their faith.
9th January 2012, 04:04
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

this i can agree on. I accept jesus as a very evolved human being that "walked what he talked" and was a great example of what a loving, caring, understanding human being can be. It's a pity that the religion formed around his philosophy messed it up really.

:s mokin:

roflmao- http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/icons/eek.gif
9th January 2012, 04:05
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by Captain VXR

Until (some) Christians stop doing things like torturing and killing children because they are 'witches' they can stop attacking Islam

Very-very weak- blah-blah-blah.
9th January 2012, 04:14
Bob Riebe

[quote="Brown, Jon Brow"]It is quite self-centered to think that 'God' wants to have a personal relationship with us insignificant humans. -[b] Really?
How so?

So why do Christians kneel down when they pray?[b]some do, some do not.
Those who do, do it out of reverence, OR because they were taught to do so and I doubt they were explained as tp why.

So why would 'God' make Earth as good as he could, but not quite as good as he made heaven?[b] A third of heavens angels fell with Satan.
What is your point?
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It is amazing that a large portion of this thread seems to consist of calling Christians are no better, or worse than Muslims, despite the thousand of people murdered by Muslims in the past decade.
Sounds like a bit of bigotry to me and yes I am bigoted against the Muslim faith.

At the same time I have worked with and had Muslim friends who were either decent people, or good ole boy hell raisers who liked to have good time.
9th January 2012, 08:02
Rudy Tamasz

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

My apologies, but the fact that you think 'rite now' is a phrase and forget the apostrophe in 'I'm' indicates to me that you may not, perhaps, be the best person to undertake such a study as you claim to have done.

That's nitpicking, isn't it?
9th January 2012, 11:24
Robinho

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

First off, I am a Christian, a born again believer in Jesus Christ whom is the only way to Heaven. I am a baptist if anyone was curious. What I will discuss will be in love and that my desire and as with most Christians is that the truth comes out about false religions and beliefs. Also what I will say will not be politically correct, at times sound insensitive, and not what you typically hear but should. But again, my point is Im not here to hate or offend anyone, I just want to give you the truth.

Before I get into Islam, the thing with Christianity that seperates it from all other religions is that it is the only religion that has a true, living Savior, and that is Jesus Christ. Also its where God wants to have a personal relationship with his people. He doesnt want you to be a slave to him. With Christianity, salvation is a free gift given to all of us by God through Jesus Christ. Other religions make you try and work and earn your way to salvation. Truth is, we could never earn our way to Heaven, we dont deserve it but God's Grace gives us a chance. We all have been given a free will so we can choose to accept Jesus or reject him.

All of which makes you, IMO, as deluded as any other religous believer, as you are more inclined to take your direction from a text that was written by people, that was nothing more than an exercise is control, than you are to make your own rational direction based on the human experience, which (again IMO) is far more valuable.

You talk of the Truth, only way to heaven, gods grace etc without anything more than a wholly scientifically inaccurate text and the interpreted teachings from that as a way to live your life. Please, provide some information of when God has spoken to you, why is it we must believe without evidence (a very convenient get out for something tha doesn't exist).

Also, before you jump up and down, i do respect your right to belive, i just don't understand it one bit ( I was raised Christian, have attended CofE, Baptist, Methodist and Catholic services and find it all to be nothing more than basic theatre), and I would also refer my entire previous paragraphs to anyone of Muslim faith. Don't for one second think that the bible is all about peace and tolerance, you can cherry pick plenty of verses in order to suit a view to allow persecution, stonings etc of various people or groups.

I can find no positive influence that any religon can provide, that a rational atheist cannot manage perfectly well without supernatural guidance.
9th January 2012, 11:28
Robinho

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Originally Posted by henners88

Some of the recent comments on this page are quite disturbing IMO. Radical Muslims or fundamentalist Christians? Perhaps we could have a poll on which is scarier? :eek:

equally for me, and I don't see the need for the use of the words "Radical" or "Fundamentalist" to be honest, as the whole premise of the belief system is both radcial and fundamentalist to me. althoough there are obviously degrees of moderation in which the chosen religon is practiced
9th January 2012, 12:54
Brown, Jon Brow

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

It is quite self-centered to think that 'God' wants to have a personal relationship with us insignificant humans.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Really?
How so?

If you have to ask the question then I doubt you will ever understand. Do you have any idea how big the universe is? Or how many species have existed before we have?

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

So why do Christians kneel down when they pray?

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

some do, some do not.
Those who do, do it out of reverence, OR because they were taught to do so and I doubt they were explained as tp why.

Looks to me like a submission of fear.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

So why would 'God' make Earth as good as he could, but not quite as good as he made heaven?

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

A third of heavens angels fell with Satan.
What is your point?

Do you always think as logically as this? Your last point is so ridiculous it does not value a reply.
9th January 2012, 13:34
ShiftingGears

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

First off, the Koran is full of errors

Like this?

A List Of Biblical Contradictions

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