Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

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Originally Posted by henners88

Now you're nicking my lines :p
Now you've shared your views on my apparent trolling, what are you going to do about your trolling?

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What trolling?! :confused:

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

What lap am I on?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Sometimes, your sponsor decals can come back to haunt you.....

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Dude, that is so wrong, on so many levels... :laugh: :rotflmao:

Good one, though... :D :up:

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Originally Posted by veeten

Dude, that is so wrong, on so many levels... :laugh: :rotflmao:

Good one, though... :D :up:

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I think it gives us all an idea of just how much damage this going to do to renault F1, and anyone associated with them.

I honestly think they will quit, sponsors will exit stage right at their earliest opportunity, and the average Frenchman certainly won't want to bankroll some bit part drivers in cars that cannot win as they have no money.....

As that woman at the rental desk told Steve Martin - they're f****d!

They are also getting bad press over the leniency they were shown.

You cannot polish a turd, so why stick around and be widiculed like the common soldiewy?

Actually, thinking about it, I wander if Max has had a conversation with Renault along the lines of;

'If you quit, book gets thrown at you, stay, and we will play nice'

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Actually, thinking about it, I wander if Max has had a conversation with Renault along the lines of;

'If you quit, book gets thrown at you, stay, and we will play nice'

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And how would they stop Renault if they decide to quit after the FIA played nice?

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Originally Posted by ioan

And how would they stop Renault if they decide to quit after the FIA played nice?

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Good point well made...

An expected outcome, to be honest. It was clear that FIA wouldn't risk with losing more teams by banning a manufacturer from the sport, like they didn't dare to ban McLaren-Mercedes. Quite a heavy punishment to Briatore and especially Symonds though.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6845194.ece

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Witness X came forward on the eve of the FIA World Motor Sport Council hearing to reveal the elaborate details of the plot as Renault executives struggled to piece together events in their internal inquiry.
According to Witness X, Briatore knew all about the plan and the architect was Pat Symonds, Renault’s once highly respected director of engineering.
The FIA statement said: “Witness X was told of the idea suggested by Nelson Piquet Jr by Mr Symonds, whilst in the presence of Mr Briatore. Witness X objected to the idea. He did not know the plan was to be carried into effect until the crash happened.
“As a result of the evidence, including Mr Piquet’s admission, Mr Symonds’s responses and Witness X’s evidence, Renault F1 concluded that they and Mr Briatore must have known about the conspiracy.”
The trio kept the plan secret from the rest of the team, which explains why the FIA was keen to go easy on Renault, handing out a two-year suspended ban to the manufacturer team, while cracking down on Briatore and Symonds, who was banned from motor racing for five years. Piquet was given immunity for revealing the plot.

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Witness X was told of the idea suggested by Nelson Piquet Jr
if any team even pick Nelson Piquet Jr as a test driver they are F_en mad

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6845194.ece

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Witness X came forward on the eve of the FIA World Motor Sport Council hearing to reveal the elaborate details of the plot as Renault executives struggled to piece together events in their internal inquiry.
According to Witness X, Briatore knew all about the plan and the architect was Pat Symonds, Renault’s once highly respected director of engineering.
The FIA statement said: “Witness X was told of the idea suggested by Nelson Piquet Jr by Mr Symonds, whilst in the presence of Mr Briatore. Witness X objected to the idea. He did not know the plan was to be carried into effect until the crash happened.
“As a result of the evidence, including Mr Piquet’s admission, Mr Symonds’s responses and Witness X’s evidence, Renault F1 concluded that they and Mr Briatore must have known about the conspiracy.”
The trio kept the plan secret from the rest of the team, which explains why the FIA was keen to go easy on Renault, handing out a two-year suspended ban to the manufacturer team, while cracking down on Briatore and Symonds, who was banned from motor racing for five years. Piquet was given immunity for revealing the plot.

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Witness X was told of the idea suggested by Nelson Piquet Jr
if any team even pick Nelson Piquet Jr as a test driver they are F_en mad

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Selective reading or jumping to conclusions :?:

Let's read that again:

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Witness X was told of the idea suggested by Nelson Piquet Jr by Mr Symonds, whilst in the presence of Mr Briatore.

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There is obviously a typo (or just a bad journo, who knows?).
Which one of the two 'BY's should be a TO?

Is it:

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Witness X was told of the idea suggested by Nelson Piquet Jr to Mr Symonds, whilst in the presence of Mr Briatore.

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Or is it:

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Witness X was told of the idea suggested to Nelson Piquet Jr by Mr Symonds, whilst in the presence of Mr Briatore.

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Are you a journo too?!

The Spanish FIA representative is clearly a tool:

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Originally Posted by autosport.com

"Briatore's (sanction) seems excessive to me, as there were no clear evidence to incriminate him and he didn't have the chance to defend himself," Gracia was quoted as saying by AS newspaper.

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If I'm not mistaken Flavio was invited to the WMSC hearing but chose not to attend. Since when does this mean that 'he didn't have the chance to defend himself'?! :rotflmao:

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Originally Posted by autosport.com

"Moreover, I'm not ruling out that he decides to resort to regular justice, because he has been left without his means to earn a living."

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Poor Flav he will not have the possibility to repaint his yacht next winter and maybe he will have to fire one of his room maids and settle for 354 thongs instead of the usual 355. :\ Who would want a dog life like that?! :D

Anyway this Gracia guy is really having some huge troubles with reality perception from his 7th cloud!

Link to article: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78785