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You think he was paid for 1 WDC in 4 years?! Good joke. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
That may be how Honda went about with JB, 1 WDC in 7 years or so, but do not delude yourself Ferrari hired Kimi to deliver each and every year, each and every race, and he failed.
If he would have dominated his team mate he could have blamed the car or something, but since the end of 2007 he's constantly been in Felipe's shadow.
I'm not saying he shouldn't get as much money as he can. He could earn double that as far as I'm concerned, as long as he dwarf the grid ever race, or at least his team mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by aryan
However he didn't deliver the goods, no matter how many digits are on his paycheck.
Yes I will. I'm not an Alonso fan and if he isn't performing constantly he'll get the criticism he will deserve.Quote:
Originally Posted by aryan
He's got a contract with Ferrari for 4 years, FYI.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Proof needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Yes, and there is nothing to say that he might not be a WDC in 2010, with Ferrari.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
He has had 3 seasons with Ferrari to date, one of which (this year), Ferrari clearly didn't built a championship winning car. Of the other two, he won 1 WDC.
1 WDC in two years is bloody good in my book.
Anyway ioan, we can't seem to agree on this and that's fine. We are just looking at things from different angles. I would have to say though, that to me, the Hamilton-Kimi combination is stronger than the Alonso-Massa combo :D
If Alonso goes to Ferrari 2010, then Felipe’s dream to be a champion has very small chance indeed, and the salary will not be that much bigger either.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Beause Alonso has absolutely no reason to be kind to Felipe – and I would be surprised if he don't get a first driver status right a way.. It will also be interesting to see how Schumi are handling the situation when his “little brother” is not in a first driver position anymore. ;)
Kimi is a Ferrari world champion and that’s what he wanted to be, so he doesn’t care that much if also Felipe would be it, since the team wanted it – he was more a Ferrari driver and making his job. Every one knows that if the team don't make everything for yoy or ih they put you to as a second driver (like Schumi/Rubens) then it's very difficult.
I will follow with big interest how Schumi will handle the situation when Felipe is not as first driver anymore and if the team put their first driver efforts on Alonso.
It would also be very fan if Kimi after that he is kicked from Ferrari, goes back to McLaren (or Brawn) and take the title 2010 with them.. And it’s absolutely not impossible…
So my tip to Kimi would be - stay at Ferrari and take the title 2010 – if they don’t want have you anymore - take the money - then go back to McLaren and take the title with them (as a big thanks for the “fair treat” Ferrari gave you kicking you out) ..
I didn't like Ferrari when they didn't allow Rubens win and I don't like them IF they don't show more carriage today..
I didn't say that. I just dispute what Knock-On says, that a WDC is all what Ferrari was asking for from Kimi.Quote:
Originally Posted by aryan
You are right. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aryan
As a friend of mine said, it is not wise to take Alonso now. Everywhere he drives there is a huge scandal. A great driver, but Ferrari have to stick with Kimi IMO.
Strange logic here. You're trying to say Kimi needs to approx. triple his point per race to rate as highly as Felipe. Seeing as Kimi averages 5.13 point per race (from above post) I think he may have trouble accomplishing that. But at least we know where you stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
btw weren't you the one defending RS high salary at Toyota a few years back when he wasn't getting the job done? Talking out of both sides of your mouth again, are you?