Danica Closer to AGR deal

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Originally Posted by EagleEye

A deal was done, as I was told by her father, and the car owner. Her father has since had a gag order in place, and the automotive industry went into a tailspin. And when those "reported" her deal was done with AGR, I did not retract anything. Note: her deal is still not done with AGR. As I said, there are a lot of things in play at this time, and weather she belongs, deserves or is qualified to run NASCAR is not the point. She is going that way, and maybe sooner rather than later.

Those who reported Favre had retired were not wrong. The situation changed. I'm sorry if you missed the last year or so regarding the autmotive industry. Feel free to catch up any time now.

I never claimed to be always right but by attending every event, I think I have a bit more knowledge those at home. And considering how often I have been correct (too many times to count) just like in this case, I think the information is a bit more credible than those who guess at home.

I have never seen such jealous bunch of "wanna be's". I have offered to meet with some at races, and I in fact have. Those who i met came away fairly impressed, and enjoyed the freebies. Others, just never show up.

If you want we can discuss this Monday morning as I'm sure you will be at the same event most of us are attending. We missed you in Motegi!

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Interesting rant. For the record, I am not a 'wanna be' but more of a 'once was'. This isn't a pi**ing war to find out who will get wetter.

I have no doubt you have your contacts, but consider this. In a negotiation, no one shows all of their cards. The rumors and proclamations may just be talk and posturing to set up a bargaining position. It would be very rare for anyone outside of the immediate circle to know exactly what is being played. It is much more common to suggest and deceive, or even say far too much, which would explain why TJ is muzzled and Danica was apparently rebuked for even talking about any contract issues. That was reported by some of the media that follows the IRL.

IHMO, IMG seems to be playing a very common business game, a sort of catch 22 of negotiation. To get a good ride, they need to bring a big sponsor. But to land the big sponsor, they have to convince them they have a good ride lined up. Without one, they can't get the other. It is a risky, but often successful play until the two sides learn how they are being played, and then it can blow up. That scenario (just speculation) could explain why no contracts have been signed and things have become publicly very quiet, even with AGR.

Again, IMHO, this is a very risky time for Danica. If she gets a ride in NASCAR and doesn't do well, her racing career could be in jeopardy or even over. If she doesn't get a ride, the value of her "brand" (such as it is) could go down precipitously, even in the IRL. Her "brand" has been built on marketing. A common quote in marketing is to sell the sizzle, not the steak. But after the sizzle is sold, someone whats to know if the steak is any good. If it isn't, all of the sizzle isn't going to get a repeat sale. At this stage in her career, she needs to prove she can back up the hype and is worthy of a repeat "sale".

You may be right, or you may be wrong. But the next few months should clear things up.

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Once again Nostradamus, you know much less than you think. I was at two events this past season, and I didn't to try to find you at either. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't bother to cross the street to do so. I could care less what access you might grant, or freebies you might hand out to curry favor. Your pompous, I know more than everyone else, attitude is wearing a might thin.

Gary

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Look in the mirror, and you will find a good example of pompous. You are just an outsider who gets angry when proven wrong again and agin.

As a general rule and fact, those who attend every event know more than those who don't. That is not to say I know everything as I don't and never claimed I did. If this is a fact you can not handle, just get over it.

Two events? Wow, now you are an expert!!

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Originally Posted by beachgirl

Is this why you can pick up a like-new copy of her autobiography "Crossing The Line" at amazon.com for $ .01? And there's lots of them to buy there for that price. Check it out. That's one powerful, mass-market "brand" there.

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http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/03/for..._slide_19.html

This is a ranking of the most powerful celebrities. Top athlete is Tiger Woods at #5. Top Race Driver is Kimi Raikkonen at #52, then Jeff Gordon at #63. Danica is ranked #100, or the third highest ranked race car driver, in the top 25 of all athletes.

I am not sure how Kimi ranked so high, and that Dale Jr. was not on the list.

Don't shoot the messenger!

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Originally Posted by EagleEye

Wow, now you are an expert!!

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There is only one person here pretending to be that. And clearly it is not me, as I have never once claimed to be anything more than a die hard open wheel fan. I've never claimed to have any inside access or attempted to belittle anyone because they only attended two IRL races a year. Hell, I've never attempted to belittle anyone because they were unable to attend ANY races.

Gary

Edit: I had a LOT more to say that can't be said in polite company, but it seems our esteemed self proclaimed Mr. Insider refuses to accept private messages via these forums.

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Originally Posted by garyshell

There is only one person here pretending to be that. And clearly it is not me, as I have never once claimed to be anything more than a die hard open wheel fan. I've never claimed to have any inside access or attempted to belittle anyone because they only attended two IRL races a year. Hell, I've never attempted to belittle anyone because they were unable to attend ANY races.

Gary

Edit: I had a LOT more to say that can't be said in polite company, but it seems our esteemed self proclaimed Mr. Insider refuses to accept private messages via these forums.

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A person who is part of the series, and at every event is not "pretending". There are a couple of others who post here, who are part of the series and provide more credile information than those who argue from the couch. I'm not sure what you do for a living (I could guess, but Starter would delete it) but I'm sure you have a much better idea of what is going on with your company than I do. Does this make you a pretender because you know more about what is happening at your company than I do? If so, then I am a pretender too...at least according to your screwy dictionary.

You fight everything I post and are wrong all the time becuase you are not part of the series. You argued with me on Conquest running two cars awhile back, and you argued when I indicated Justin Wilson has signed with NHL, and you argued with me on NHL adding a 3rd car, you argued when I said the Green Prix was dead, and so on and so on. I take it you like to argue.

As for PM's I answer everything from those true fans who ask questions or want real information. And they can tell you I don't have an answer for everything. If I don't know, I tell them "I don't know". There is actually a lot of that right now.

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Originally Posted by EagleEye

You fight everything I post and are wrong all the time because you are not part of the series. You argued with me on Conquest running two cars awhile back, and you argued when I indicated Justin Wilson has signed with NHL, and you argued with me on NHL adding a 3rd car, you argued when I said the Green Prix was dead, and so on and so on. I take it you like to argue.

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Clearly you have me confused with someone else. Just to be certain, I went to the "Advanced Search" options on this forum. I did three searches. The first was with the word "garyshell" as the keyword and "EagleEye" in the user name field. It turned up nine hits. None of which were any argument between you and I about Justin, NHL or Green Prix. Next I reversed the two terms, with "EagleEye" in the keyword and "garyshell" in the user name. It turned up 12 hits. Again none about Justin, NHL, or Green Prix. Finally I did one with "Wilson" in the keyword and "EagleEye" in the user name. Again nothing at all between you and I on that subject. The search archives go back to 2007, before Justin signed with NHL.

It's odd you would think I would argue about the Green Prix being dead. I thought it was dead from the first word I heard of it. You might want to review the thread: http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...ighlight=green

So, I have no idea why you seem to think this is some ongoing battle between you and I. In fact it appears we have only really butted heads in this thread. I have never had an issue with the content of your posts or your information. But I very much take issue with your presentation. I had the same issue with Waldo. His content was incredible, but he treated everyone like crap that dared to disagree with him. Other choose to ignore it. I didn't, I don't suffer fools gladly.

Lets just end this. It's pointless. Henceforth, I will just do my best to ignore your condescending attitude and try to just focus purely on the information you deliver, because you DO have a much closer view than most of us here.

Gary

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Originally Posted by EagleEye

I take it you like to argue.

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no.. not gary... never

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Lets just end this. It's pointless. Henceforth, I will just do my best to ignore your condescending attitude and try to just focus purely on the information you deliver, because you DO have a much closer view than most of us here.

Gary

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And I will ignore your continued argumentative and ignorant comments. We'd be square if your would refrain from comments like "pompous" and accusations of me having a condescending attitude. I'm not sure what we tassled with in the past, but it was something that was way off base, and had you chasing my threads, like you did here. Give peace a chance!

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Originally Posted by EagleEye

And I will ignore your continued argumentative and ignorant comments. We'd be square if your would refrain from comments like "pompous" and accusations of me having a condescending attitude. I'm not sure what we tassled with in the past, but it was something that was way off base, and had you chasing my threads, like you did here. Give peace a chance!

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Just to set the record straight, EagleEye and I have had some behind the scenes conversations about all of this AFTER these posts and it is clear to both of us I was not the person who argued with him about Justin, NHL or the GreenPrix and other issues which shall remain in the PM domain.

We have agreed to hit the reset button. I realize there was quite a bit of frustration precipitated by mistaken identity and my lack of understanding of the underlying issues surrounding that. Hell as I told EagleEye in a PM, if I had been in his shoes I would have been less gentile than he was, if I thought I was confronting who he thought he was confronting. Once we got to the bottom of that it was obvious we were able to carry on here without all the baggage.

Move on, nothing to see here.

Gary

Now back to the regularly scheduled program...that being that Danica stinks and we can continue to watch her brand free fall for another 3 years at AGR. Good thing about this is there will always be something to talk about for the next 3 years, starting with the same things that have been said for the past 3 years...she stinks and AGR will continue their lapse into a mediocre to back of pack team (unless they hire a proven driver to go with TK's developement).