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Good ties for the away teams this week.
0-2, 0-4, 0-2, 0-1
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Originally Posted by steveaki13
I get fed up with football.
Why are the rules like they are??????
Fair enough give a penalty, but how does that really deserve to be a red card and ruin the game. It was a foul, but apart from that it wasn't dangerous or major.
Don't quote the last man rule because I know that, but its rubbish. Red Cards were introduced to stop dangerous tackles. Now you get one for the smallest contact. The punishment of a penalty should be enough.
If its a dangerous or cynical foul (like a knee high two footer or pulling someone down then fair enough), but to send Goalkeepers off for brushing Robbens leg is stupid.
I also think Goalkeepers also get to much protection. They have the advantage of using their hands and yet they get a freekick if someone goes near them.
Football in 10 years will be just an American Football style stop every 20 seconds when 2 players brush and have a set play.
While Football back in the day was too hard. (kicking any skilful player). I believe its gone too far the other way now.
Tackles should be allowed as long as its a honest attempt to get the ball. If it is dangerous or cynical as I said send them off, but ruling out tackling from the side and back when they just poke the ball away and people say its dangerous is stupid.
I play at a local level and you get loads of tackles that would be instant yellows at the top level. However I have never been injured by a tackle from behind? So why is it dangerous for top athletes?
Its just pandering to God knows what, so we're stuck with people on TV and in FIFA saying "That's a clear penalty because there was contact". WTF Penalties should be if you literally cant have a decent attempt. Yet one brush of a sock and players fall down when in on goal and have a chance to score.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... Its becoming like Basketball (no contact)
Another thing which annoys me. A player gives away 3 minor fouls and gets booked and so another 1 or 2 and he could be SENT OFF, without doing anything that's dangerous. "Persistent" fouling should not be a yellow card unless its blatant cynical fouling. The punishment for small fouls is mean't to be that you get a "Free" kick of the ball.
Basically FIFA in trying to make the game "better" according to them, are ruining loads of games with soft sendings off.
Right Rant over, but I hate the way football is going
Yep. I agree with you. I honestly think that both Messi and Robben could have stayed on their feet if they had to, but because they felt contact they both knew that they would win a penalty and get the defender a red card.
Re: I will probably be banned for this but... Footie Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
I get fed up with football.
Why are the rules like they are??????
Fair enough give a penalty, but how does that really deserve to be a red card and ruin the game. It was a foul, but apart from that it wasn't dangerous or major.
Don't quote the last man rule because I know that, but its rubbish. Red Cards were introduced to stop dangerous tackles. Now you get one for the smallest contact. The punishment of a penalty should be enough.
If its a dangerous or cynical foul (like a knee high two footer or pulling someone down then fair enough), but to send Goalkeepers off for brushing Robbens leg is stupid.
I also think Goalkeepers also get to much protection. They have the advantage of using their hands and yet they get a freekick if someone goes near them.
Football in 10 years will be just an American Football style stop every 20 seconds when 2 players brush and have a set play.
While Football back in the day was too hard. (kicking any skilful player). I believe its gone too far the other way now.
Tackles should be allowed as long as its a honest attempt to get the ball. If it is dangerous or cynical as I said send them off, but ruling out tackling from the side and back when they just poke the ball away and people say its dangerous is stupid.
I play at a local level and you get loads of tackles that would be instant yellows at the top level. However I have never been injured by a tackle from behind? So why is it dangerous for top athletes?
Its just pandering to God knows what, so we're stuck with people on TV and in FIFA saying "That's a clear penalty because there was contact". WTF Penalties should be if you literally cant have a decent attempt. Yet one brush of a sock and players fall down when in on goal and have a chance to score.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...... Its becoming like Basketball (no contact)
Another thing which annoys me. A player gives away 3 minor fouls and gets booked and so another 1 or 2 and he could be SENT OFF, without doing anything that's dangerous. "Persistent" fouling should not be a yellow card unless its blatant cynical fouling. The punishment for small fouls is mean't to be that you get a "Free" kick of the ball.
Basically FIFA in trying to make the game "better" according to them, are ruining loads of games with soft sendings off.
Right Rant over, but I hate the way football is going
Wow Steve, tell us what you really think :D
Seriously though you are 100% correct, if there is a genuine attempt to play the ball, even in a last man situation, give the free kick, even book the tackler, but don't send him (or her) off. It's little wonder strikers hit the ground if a defender coughs too loudly - this is what is ruining the game, less red cards for defenders for.... erm... well... defending, will result in less u-boat impressions from strikers and instantly make the game better.
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Glad to see others agree.
The remaining question is if fans agree and a fair few players I have heard talk about it agree then why is nothing done about it.
The fact is its getting worse.
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In Italy, both fans and media have complained about this but it didn't help !
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Actually the charts should be split between Arsenal 11 v Kroos and Arsenal 10 v Kroos. He is an outstanding player and I'd have him in the Arsenal side like a shot, especially for his ability to ignore 2 lines of 4 in front of him to put the round object in the ropey thing.
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
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Originally Posted by steveaki13
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Basically FIFA in trying to make the game "better" according to them, are ruining loads of games with soft sendings off.
Right Rant over, but I hate the way football is going
Yep. I agree with you. I honestly think that both Messi and Robben could have stayed on their feet if they had to, but because they felt contact they both knew that they would win a penalty and get the defender a red card.
I agree with most if not all of what steve said too....but seriously Messi could have stayed on his feet? At the pace he was running at, the contact with his foot was definitely enough to trip anyone, atleast a stumble if not a fall...
And having watched most Barcelona games he has played in, I definitely know that he is not a diver, or a player trying to get people sent off (like Busquets or Alves are) and have seen him often shrug of tackles and get on with it without falling down or milking the moment.
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Originally Posted by Storm
I agree with most if not all of what steve said too....but seriously Messi could have stayed on his feet? At the pace he was running at, the contact with his foot was definitely enough to trip anyone, atleast a stumble if not a fall...
And having watched most Barcelona games he has played in, I definitely know that he is not a diver, or a player trying to get people sent off (like Busquets or Alves are) and have seen him often shrug of tackles and get on with it without falling down or milking the moment.
This.
I agree fully. Messi was knocked off his feet and could have only stumbled on for me. Messi doesn't ever tend to dive. I am not going to say he has never dived, but I have seen maybe games where he has honestly done all he can to stay on his feet.
Robben I thought not only could have stayed up but actually could have scored.
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Originally Posted by Storm
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
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Originally Posted by steveaki13
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Basically FIFA in trying to make the game "better" according to them, are ruining loads of games with soft sendings off.
Right Rant over, but I hate the way football is going
Yep. I agree with you. I honestly think that both Messi and Robben could have stayed on their feet if they had to, but because they felt contact they both knew that they would win a penalty and get the defender a red card.
I agree with most if not all of what steve said too....but seriously Messi could have stayed on his feet? At the pace he was running at, the contact with his foot was definitely enough to trip anyone, atleast a stumble if not a fall...
And having watched most Barcelona games he has played in, I definitely know that he is not a diver, or a player trying to get people sent off (like Busquets or Alves are) and have seen him often shrug of tackles and get on with it without falling down or milking the moment.
I am not accusing Messi of being a diver because he isn't.
But I dislike how the modern footballer hardly ever attempts to stay on his feet. If Messi had tried to stay on his feet we would have seen a stumble before he fell over.
But saying that, Demichelis should have stayed on his feet more. :p
