It does, but considering the state of the WRC we are lucky to be getting 2, let alone 5! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
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It does, but considering the state of the WRC we are lucky to be getting 2, let alone 5! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Marcus Grönholm X-Games testing Image
From Autosport magazine yesterday:
Uncertain Ford future for youngster Tanak
OTT TANAK’S FUTURE WITH THE M-Sport Ford team has been calledinto question after Malcolm Wilsonrefused to confirm he will competeon the next World RallyChampionship round in Finland.
Tanak has endured an accident-plagued start to his first full seasonin a Fiesta RS WRC and his high-speed roll on last weekend’sRally New Zealand has furtherangered Wilson.
“I’m not happy and I’m not impressed with him at the moment,”said Wilson. “I have always been very positive about him and I’ve always told you that he will go [to Finland], but I have to think about things now. It’s just so frustrating.He’d come here and showed good speed, it looked as though he hadturned it around, but I am hugely disappointed with this.”
The 24-year-old Estonian was fighting to stay ahead of ThierryNeuville to keep his fifth place in New Zealand when he crashed.
How can he speak so bad about Tanak. This will demoralise him further. I agree he is not impressive this year, but given that he was tolerating his son for so many years and not said anything near this bad... His attitude will destroy him
I wonder how long it will take him to say something like that about Latvala. The two of them have f uped nearly the same amount of rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
money money money
While I agree with you that if you keep putting the useless crap driver Slowson in a car, it's hard to come with any constructive critism of other drivers, then it has to be said that Tänak has been a massive dissapointment this year. I guess he is putting the pressure on Tänak because he wants him to understand that he needs to put in the results to justify the investment in him. Tänak has only scores 1/3 of Novikov's points and that's not good enough on this level. Maybe Tänak should have driven some of the latest rallies and try and make Top 6-Top 8 to get the experience and the points rather than overdriving to try and prove that he belong in the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
I agree with you, I am disappointed with him as well. But what do you expect from a driver with just a year in S2000 and half in a WRC car? Novikov has done a full year in WRC and a nearly full with Citroen in 2009. And also I see Dennis being as a co driver as a great influence for him, that one of the reasons he is driving well and controlled this year. Tanak I believe he needs a bit more time to develop and not rubbish him with his comments, Jari Matti and Petter deserves more of such talkQuote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Latvala, Wilson and Tanak can go.
I wouldn't like to normally make a statement such as this but I am beginning to wonder if Malcolm really has some problems in the brain department. No matter what Latvala does he still wants to have his babies yet he berates a young and inexperienced driver who makes some mistakes, well surprise surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
It's just laying the ground work so he can take Ott out of the car and put Matt back in one.
I do not think so...if tanak pays he can have the car. The problem is that tanak this year is very very dissapointing when it comes to consistency he seems to make mistakes all the time no matter if he fights or just cruising...Quote:
Originally Posted by TyPat107
In case of latvala he has some strong backing all these years who probably pay for his drives and he can have any car he wants despite his mistakes...maybe that is why VW wants him...no one will say no to another source of money.
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Originally Posted by makinen_fan
This really is a farcical outburst from Malcolm, given his indulgence of his talentless son and Latvala's worrying inability to stay on the road. I wonder if the interviewer caught Malcolm in a particularly bad mood, or perhaps he is (unfairly) taking out his frustration from a terribly disappointing season on Tanak. Whatver the case may be, there are far, far more qualified candidates in the Ford organisation to be the target of Malcolm's ire.
I agree with MikeD.
Wilson is being silly but yes at the same time he's pushing Tanak like he did with Latvala. Latvala got his cool back and became consistent but now... Not doing so good.
Novikov is a quiet one, he's doing pretty well and he'll keep doing so too! I think it's Denis who is teaching him the ropes and Novikov is someone to look out for in the future! Does anyone else agree?
Can someone answer me why Novikov kept the Ford and not drive anymore with the Citroen? Would he be doing better in the DS3 then in the Fiesta? Had anyone thought of this too? Yes others are doing errors in rallies to his advantage and he's not making stage times, but Novikov IS keeping it up.
He who pays the bills can say what he likes.
Clearly Ott isn't listening and needs a kick in ass via the media as well.
Finally. Someone actually gets what's going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
As long as Papa Wilson is signing the cheques, he gets to put whoever he wants in the cars and gets to critique those drivers however he desires too.
This is reality, something a few of the recent posters on this thread don't seem to recognise.
Rant over.
I think some of you guys have to think things over a couple of times again.
Tanak is still in development, like Novikov was a couple of years ago. Do you remember his "consistancy" by then?
Latvala, as someone mentioned has money behind him paying for his faults (I guess) and also he is and has been always very fast. Even winning some events. Have you forgotten that?
Novikov in Ford is much cheaper for him, I guess. And the Ford is as good as the Citroen. That we know already. Especially as I happen to know that the fastest Ford guys behind JML and Petter are getting equal engines and I do think suspension in NORF.
So rounding up this quote, I´d say: have some patience with Mr Tanak maybe one year or more and he´ll be a very fast guy, as all the other promising youngsters.
Isn't Tanak paying for his drive? And even if he isn't, even Malcolm has to realise the hypocrisy of singling Tanak out for criticism, against the backdrop of Latvala and #1 son.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazza2541
Obviously Malcolm needs a 5 year plan for Ott. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Just watched Germany 2008 and saw so many Latvala's mistakes. Any other driver should be replaced but not him.
Yeah, remember Novikov on his first year with WRC. I think he managed to crash twice in one stage in NORF and he had more crashes in one year than I have fingers in my two hands. He did 8 rallies with WRC he scored 4 points and retired four times because of the accident. look where he is now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Remember the first season by Ogier? many crashes, including two crashes in the same stage at Cyprus if i am not mistaken? and his best rally was rally nr 8 when he was 2nd in Greece (well, Villagra was fourth and Rautenbach was fifth, so, not very good list of drivers). and it was his only podium in his first year. he had two 5th places 2 6th places one 7th place, Once he was 10th, 17th and 26th + 4 non finishes (superally was already in force and those 7h, 17th and 26th position have been acuired thanks to superally as well). basically he had some problems in 7 rallies out of 13 rallies. Look where he is now?
Tänak has done 8 rallies in WRC as well (as much as Novikov did during the fist year). He should not compete with Novikov because he has much less experience in WRC but he still competes with his teammate. This is the bad thing.
Basically it was his first bigger crash in WRC. All the others have been small mistakes and sometimes a bit unlucky as well. GB=good results, Monte = OK result, Sweden = a few snow excurisons, Mexico = really good rally, Portugal went wide and got stuck on the rocks, Argentina he got stuck on a lonely junction and could not get back before the OTL, Acropolis off road excurion with some damaged suspension components. His main aim has been to collect experience. He has covered most of the SS distances so far. Basically he has fulfilled his task close to 100%
I think that we are a bit spoiled by his superb results in SWRC car and with GrN car. Give the boy a 2-3 more rallies without too much pressure and you will see the results.
Sometimes little punishment works for him. Last year Markko did not let him drive in Rally Estonia because of his crash in Greece. What happened?
3rd in NORF in SWRC, win in Germany and France in SWRC :-)
Well this guys were not full factory drivers or 2nd drivers as Latvala. Still remember '97 when Schwarz was fired from Wilson after one bad rally and replaced with KKK. Not good for the sport.
@bluuford: I agree, but Novikov has more money than Tanak! ;)
From all new drivers Ogier is only one worth of works signing.
The evidence would suggest that Ford/M-Sport are hopeless at managing drivers.
Whole team is on drugs. :D
World Rally Championship - News - Solberg: title dream not over
I think they have to say that - they wouldn't want him to say its all over already. Petter will know the seasons over in his head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I'm a bit disapointed with Tanak, I did expect better from him. I still say out of the three ford "B" team drivers (Novikov, Ostberg, Tanak) Ostberg is the boss.
Indeed! He should be! look again whom do you compare?Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Mads has 44 starts in WRC with WRCar and over fifty starts in National events in a WRCar;-)
Do you remember that he was shown in a show named smth like "sporting accidents." He crashed his Subaru many times and they advised him to change the sport :-P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgBVL...e_gdata_player
Broken Leg, ribs, and apparently some internal bleeding.
I am in favor of GRC and love that at least some form of Rallycross is getting exposure in the States, but that metal ramp is BULL****!! At the very least it needs to be dirt. Nascar wont allow dirt on their tracks, but at X? Why not have it be dirt like all other years?
Edit: one should note that marcus has been quite vocal against the jump.
Update:
Apparently he "only" broke his ankle in multiple places, but surely better than previously reported. Sorry, I know this isn't wrc, but I thought people would be interested.
Best,
The one who created this jump should apply for Ford development department for crash dummy position..Quote:
Originally Posted by Gherid_lacksGPS
Well, now it has happened then... I've always seen those stupidly huge US rallycross jumps as serious accident waiting to happen. I've thought that even those dirt ones have certain serious risks involved, but a metal ramp?!?!?! For f*cks sake... :mad:
They should be allowed to take part in all events that are approved by local ASN at least. Does not need to be FIA event.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Apparently Isachsen and Grönholm (with the other drivers behind them) said to the organizers that they would not drive if they didn’t do anything to the gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
So the jump will now be “bridged”. :up:
Reason, one of life's great virtues.
NOVIKOV KNOCKING AT VW GATE??? PYeklada Google
I was not impressed by the staff after that crash. No one even goes near the car until well after it's smoking and the driver pulls himself out. Looks like there wasn't a fire extinguisher handy, either.
Novikov's crew had Dmack branding on their uniforms in NZ. Maybe he will switch from Michelin in the future?
Gronholm crashed at rally cross practice and was knocked unconscious.
Edit: He was brought to the hospital and is awake and alert and undergoing some tests.
Hope he's ok, does that mean he is out of the whole event?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxi
it depends if he gets cleared by the doctors. I hope he can compete because i want to see a fight with Loeb!