Evans to test for Finland on the HYAcenter Rally:
https://rallyjournal.com/elfyn-evans...rally-finland/
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Evans to test for Finland on the HYAcenter Rally:
https://rallyjournal.com/elfyn-evans...rally-finland/
This weekend’s rally will provide a valuable litmus test for new technology designed to boost the fan viewing experience next year
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...tvia/10635666/
i still dont understand that. the promoter is spending money to add a little bit of "radio" and visual indications of the hybrid power and flat tire's to the rallyTV broadcast in order to... make it more interesting for the 15k hardcore fans that already watch the series? then during the week they can post a "funny radio compilation" video on YouTube ? is that really it or am i reading this wrong? cuz idk man. dirt fish does a good job with a shit ton of infirmation and good videos during the week. also we basically know how to find "fan footage" of everything on twitter. are they really thinking "a radio compilation" clip on youtube make wrc big again? or am i getting this all wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Ummm - you do know that it's all really made for broadcasters rather than for their own platform, right? That's where the real audience is....?Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
hmm i dont know much about people watching rally outside the hardcore internet fans tbh. but my question is real. what is this comand center? graphics and YouTube clips with "funny radio"? i honestly never understood.
SHOULD THE WRC RE-INTRODUCE QUALIFYING? THE TEAMS HAVE THEIR SAY
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...-say/10637900/
Please no, I wish Neuville would stop complaining like Ogier did back when he was full-time, we've tried qualifying stage before, there's a reason it was taken off, if they wanna sort out the fact they're road cleaning so much, then maybe not have 7 consecutive gravel events on the trot....just bringing an idea, but as usual with our beloved championship, they'll take something that's bad/needs to improve or simply doesn't need to change and then make it worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
And in what order they go qualifying? :) Still, someone is unhappy.
The Toyota and M-Sport argument doesn't cut it for me. Giving young drivers an easier start position isnt what a World Championship is for.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Also the part-timers shouldn't get the privilege either.
The best and fastest drivers should be able to compete for the podium on every rally, not running at the back desperately trying to to scramble a few points.
Reversing road order for second loop of friday stages would be good enough
How about any drivers not committed to the full Championship start at the front, with whoever had the done fewest rounds going first ?
I don't normally mind having the championship leader open the road on the first day. But then you have rallies like Latvia and this year's Sweden, when the skills of who opens the road matter little and luck matters a lot.
Other drivers have problems and drop down? Nice, you don''t have the sweep the road on saturday as well. Nobody has problems? Unlucky, you open the road on saturday too and can only hope for others' problems, your speed is irrelevant.
In all rallies a driver's result is dependant also on others' mistakes, but in this cases it's almost only down to it and it feels very much luck based.
Mid-Summer Tarmac rally is missing. Then it would be better. Neuville is right that you CAN'T keep the championship lead 7 gravel rallies in a row. Kalle did, but he was quite lucky and had some rain. Neuville had big snowfall in Sweden and Bone-Dry gravels...
All rc1 cars drive the stage twice, time of second pass counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dontcut
Yep. Use the same stage as Shakedown with several runs then finally as Qualifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Mix events evely and this wont be an issue. This year, especially, callender is the problem - 7 gravel rallies in the row.
The main issue is that the 2 best drivers do partial seasons.
No matter how you mix it, the championship contenders will never have a chance against an ogier or rovanpera with a 5 place advantage on gravel. This is a problem we didn't have in the past.
Unless we go back to qualifying, or some form of penalty for partial drivers, we will have to accept that the championship contenders will win almost no rallies.
hmm. interesting. like: 1st run on championship points order, 2nd run reversedQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I think it would be better to keep Friday as it is but use the reverse of the Friday start order for Saturday, instead of reverse classification order, and only use reverse classification order for Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backa
read something that made me think: could making part time drivers run before the 6 full timers reduce the number of events these guys actually care to do? cuz they would not win (like for seb or kalle) and these random 3rd entries in hyundai would become less effective, so why bother?
I quite like the idea of reversing the starting order from Friday on Saturday. It would at least make things pretty fair all round assuming weather stays similar.
If they make all part timers go first there wont be any part timers.
Rally Latvia was an exception with 100km of single-use Friday stages
On the Friday in Finland the 4 main stages are run twice, so Neuville will only be fully road cleaning for the morning.
As in Poland, I expect Neuville to score quite well and the road position argument will die away again
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier...nth-wrc-title/
It is becoming more and more possible. Good result in Finland + Good starting position in Greece and Chile = Good starting position for tarmac also potentionally.
Of course he will do, it's easier than the last couple of years. Thanks to the points system and those freakin' 7 event sweeping.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
So If I am right, Ogier "told us" that if he won't score more points than Neuville in Greece then he wouldn't compete in Chile? It would make sense tho.. That means that Greece is absolutely crucial for this championship
Agree about sweeping as this reduce possibilities for leader to run away from the rest of field but don't see change of point system being that beneficial for part-timer fighting for title. If anything, now as long as driver enters rally, there is less risk he will end it with 0 points as sunday is kind of new rally. I would say new points system helped Neuville to some extent reduce damage that comes from friday sweeping.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
The part where I fully agree with Ogier is that now it is much harder to make a gap. Before the 25 vs 18 point step from first to second was much more pronounced.
So as as Ogier says they should keep those points for overall (given at end of Sunday) and add Sunday points and PS on top. That would also remove the part where your "Saturday" points depend on finishing Sunday.
They seemed very keen to keep the 30 points for winning everything the same as last year. I think that causes a lot of the complexity.
I think the fixed 30 max is nice for comparing year to year and so on, but it's not really important. If a system with variable points is more satisfactory, take it.
Where did you read that? That doesn't sound right... especially when you consider that if something happens to Neuville on CER or Japan, who is going to stop Ogier from bagging maximum points on asphalt? Tanak is not confident with Hyundai on asphalt, maybe Evans but he could be asked to slow down if he's not fighting for the title anymore and everybody else is too slow on asphalt. Only changeable conditions or car trouble could get in the way of Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
So is he afraid of losing it while he tries? Try till the end, like everyone else during his domination.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
If Rovanperä does CER, I can see him at the front. He was fast last year before Evans crashed and he decided to roll through the stages in sightseeing pace and he was brilliant in Croatia 2022 when the conditions were pretty bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
But Kalle is not fighting for the title, so surely he would give up the 1st place to Ogier. I think Toyota's "no team orders" will disappear in the last rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
Surley could be. Evans would feel properly shafted in that case I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Based on his comments after Finland, it seems more like he doesn't really want to travel around the globe (as he will. Europe - South America - Europe - Asia), and that he would like to spend time home with his family.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
However, he also feels like he has an obligation to do it now that he seemingly is the best bet Toyota has. I guess it is a bit like Rovanperä replacing Ogier in Poland. Toyota have no issues paying the two good money for a part-time campaign, but if they are needed, they are needed.
The WRC offered Motorsport.com a sneak preview of its plans to boost its television broadcast for fans from 2025
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...ies-/10643183/
Sounds good but remains to be seen how it works out. They haven’t still managed to get wrc+ working for everyone without faults through all these years
Sound good for hardcore rally fans, but on the other side there are average people, who are behind the paywall. They should show all live coverage on youtube and for hardcore fans there should be exclusive options available.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Only after some serious negotiation over bonus payments....Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I remember Elf saying that he didn't think he could afford to compensate Ogier for a win earlier in the season....
Kalle and Ogier doing part-time programmes has for sure screwed their teammate
IMO this is just useless. honestlyQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
this year is becoming "the moment" we realize nobody in charge of wrc knows what to do with the championship, none of the teams know what they want, none of the team principals know what direction the sport should move, none of the drivers has a vision to improve the championship.... we fans also dont know whats best too, cant never reach to a logical central point. arent u guys going crazy about this? cuz im always angry about this. we need to improve, but theres NOTHING..Nothing, only people saying "we gotta improve the championship". best thing we had this year was sesksmania haha
I wouldn't pay too much attention to post-stage interviews, sometimes they say things for fun. When championship battle is clearing up, it's for Latvala to manage team and drivers needs.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
It’s like Mirek said, that’s what happens when you don’t assign a clear vision; I think for us as fans we just want to see the fastest (within the limits of safety and say nothing crazy like a Bugatti Chiron-cost wise) B/C segment hatchbacks (preferably 3 doors) on the planet, rallying on every terrain known to man during daytime & night time(!) across the globe, sounding amazing while they do and having 4 full time manufacturers going at each other, each with 3 full time drivers, trying to set the world a light, while having all possible (in the limitation of logistics) coverage with proper commentators and not ones that keep telling me: “they finished the stage for us….’or shouting: ‘oh noooooo!!!! Katsuta’s stopped!’ As if all the fans and viewers have only just finished kindergarten… & if that’s too much for the FIA & promoter to do, then please, hand the reigns to someone who’d be willing to do it and can. That’s all I’m gonna say about it ‘cause honestly I feel (& probably am) like a broken record at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o