Kalle is pure talent and got everything working for him this year. Compare for example results from last year. It does not make others clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hüttünen
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Kalle is pure talent and got everything working for him this year. Compare for example results from last year. It does not make others clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hüttünen
after power stage with his comment, it really seemed his glass is now full of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
it was multi year deal
its just some finnish guys getting cocky now, i see it in twitter a lotQuote:
Originally Posted by meh
have experienced it also during rally finland, i can say the attitude towards us changed massively when Ott dominated there previous years
What did he say?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
By the way, huge congrats to Katsuta, now 3rd in the championship!!!
That is why Rovanperä moved to Estonia? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Congratulations to Kalle and Jonne!
Big congrats to Kalle, winning from 1st on the road on gravel. He's world champion already, championship's over.
Toyota almost 1-2-3 and still no reliability problems I recall in 4 rounds, it shows they're lightyears ahead.
As much as Katsuta is a nice guy, I can't feel sorry for him: he lost 3rd place to a rusty Sordo with an inferior car, and would have never been near the podium without Hyundais falling apart left and right.
On the other hand, I'm glad for Dani's podium and that he didn't need to drop places to Neuville and Tanak. It's not like a Hyundai can win the championship anyway.
I don't believe this excuse. With "no power" he had equal time with Thierry and lost only 3 smth sec to Rovanperä.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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Suninen messed up possible Finnish hat-trick and dominance in all classes..
Could have had rally1, 2 and 3 victories (Pajari lead 5min40)
And yet if you'd told me 2 years ago, hell, even last year that he'd be fighting for a podium with Dani, one of the most experienced drivers out there, I'd think you're kidding, so huge kudos to him, sure he's still not exactly there yet but he's making huge gains as the time progresses, something you can't yet say about Greensmith for instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
As for the championship, you could argue it's already in the bag of Toyota & Rovanperä, I think now it's just a matter of when & where they win their titles and not if, hopefully Hyundai can comeback fighting next year with 3 proper drivers & not 2 and a plus one that makes an occasional appearance, it's simply not enough against those Toyotas.
i guess he meant more like less power, not no power at allQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
that i believe, look how much faster he was on first run comapred to Sordo and etc
I'm not that surprised. If you'd told me he'd fight for the podium driving a fast and bulletproof Toyota against Sordo with a slower and unreliable Hyundai (and getting into the podium fight only because other Hyundais kept having problems), I would have found that entirely possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
With that said, Katsuta drove very nicely this weekend, good job to him. But he missed the podium while driving the best car, I feel more sorry for Hyundai drivers who deserves much better...
I did get it yes, but if anything he's baffled by Rovanperä's dominance and it' s hard to swallow.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
But Ott had proper Sunday, it makes me feel more positive towards the things to come
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Originally Posted by cali
yep, today was very promising https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/733...al-2022/?leg=3
So you think the radiator filled with sand and missing front splitter didn’t affect the performance?
Again, not that surprised, that’s exactly my point, he’s starting to impress, I mean last year the Toyota was also better than the troublesome i20 and you still wouldn’t see Katsuta challenging for a podium like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I do agree of course that the Hyundai drivers are being over and over again let down by their car for the last couple of seasons now, I can’t stress this enough, I hope Hyundai get their sh*t together, pardon my french.
Great job by Kalle with a Seb-like performance and puts a big hit to the helmet to Evans and Neuville here.
For Evans, rather good after a bad stint but not enough against Kalle. But big result in the manufacturer championship for Toyota.
On Katsuta, I’ll be a little harsh but it’s only an average result. He was better during the first 2 days last year (team orders on last day) and when you’re competing for a manufacturer job, you have to deliver in that type of situation. A rusty Sordo teaches him a lesson about what it takes to be a real manufacturer driver here whereas he did his first top-3 of the Rallye in the power stage (+ a RC1 Top 3 in the Mickey Mouse stage yesterday). And it is quite coherent with the beginning of the season of the Japanese which is a little lower than last year. The only positive is that he is the best of youngster (except Kalle) and he is 3rd in the championship; but it’s because the others screwed up and I’m not sure it’s a gift with Sardinia and Kenya coming.
For M-Sport, disaster rallie even if 3 cars finished in top 10. Loubet shows some pace sometimes but not regular enough at the moment (but only 2nd race this year). And for Fourmaux, ok, he did it finally to the end but with awful times; reminds me a lot of Camilli.
In WRC-2, excellent and clever job by Rossel even if he was no match for Suninen and Mikkelsen. Big mistake for Suninen and with some consequences: even if he’s fast, why a manufacturer would give a job to someone who screwed a result like this (exactly the difference with Sordo).
Good job by Kajto also.
Ingram a little further but good job also; but not that much points taken to the competitor because of the number of withdrawals.
... what over a decade extra top level experience and 140 extra WRC starts means. One driver is Next Generation and one is retiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
2.1 seconds is the difference between an average result and a lesson in delivering results? Very harsh.
Everything matters, also air pressure, humidity, road conditions etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I just don't find it to have any value as we don't know if there was sand and how much bcs basically every car has some portion of dust/sand in air filter.
The other question is why Rovanperä didn't have any negative comments. I can answer that as well when your confidence level is so high all the small things don't bother you. Been there and done that, so this comes from my own experience, although in a totally different sport.
It was his frustration speaking.
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First Rallye for Sordo in the hybrid car and he was clearly rusty; for the Spaniard, it was clearly more preparation for Sardinia.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Katsuta was globally faster than him during the weekend (13 stages above for the Japanese I think).
And Katsuta is not a pure newbie now: more than 40 starts in WRC including more than 20 in RC1, more than 70 starts outside Japan.
So yes it’s harsh but Sordo teaches him what is needed to be a manufacturer driver and to deliver a result (for sure experience matters but when competing for a seat, you must beat old drivers at on moment). At that time of his career, Katsuta must win that type of fight if he wants to deserve a spot in the main team; he might achieve it even without deserving it as he is Japanese but it would not give something good in terms of result.
Both made really good performances - why to fight here who did better? They delivered what they could delivered - they fighted for podiums when big guns like Loeb, Ogier, Tänak and Neuville were out. They were not out and took the opportunity. They were away from fight for the win, so they delivered well for their level.
Only 2 weeks to wait, both are hungry for more :)
I'm not sure that's even the question, unless you mean just for comparison's sake. But they had different aims. No driver's championship for Sordo, he had absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain for Hyundai in this particular fight, with Tanak and Neuville behind him. True, Taka could have taken points off Hyundai, but Toyota had 1-2 anyway. Maybe his more important lesson was how to drive with a calm head to go 3rd in the driver's champ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
We're discussing, not fighting. It's a good place to do it. If you want me to dumb my posts down to things like "wow that was fast" - nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
nice clip with Ott
https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/1528443991745826819
taken from here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py1zxR8S8rgQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKhpdDP0kL4
Question is, can he make it 4 in a row?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I think Fourmaux was a little unlucky, steady first loop on Friday was understandable, was on for quickest time on the 1st stage of the second loop and got a puncture. With only 1 spare he had to drive slow for rest of the loop and that gave him a crap road position from then on, no sense in pushing hard after that, better to get the KM’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
It was a bad error from many to only take 5 tyres on that second loop on Friday.
I was more disappointed in Breen, have been all season. It can’t help in the team that Loeb comes back in and is leading straight away and he is nowhere.
I also hoped for more from Breen. But maybe that was not a realistic expectation given that Hyundai typically benched him for much of the first half of recent seasons in favour of Sordo. Will be a fairer scorecard for Breen after Estonia/Finland/Belgium rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
Yeah, after failing in Sweden, it was clear he would have a bad time between Croatia and Safari considering his level on real tarmac and the fact he didn’t made world-level slow gravel rallies for a while. All the more than his road position is not good with Evans and Tanak having bad results and the shared 3rd car in Hyundai and Toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigalstosh99
With a better road position, it should be better in Estonia and Finland. Not that sure about Belgium because a lot of drivers now knows a little better this rallie so it will be harder for him than last year.
For the end of the season, it will depend how much he improves on slow gravel after having missed it so long. Then Catalunya should be hard (don’t know about Japan, it will depend a lot on the weather I think).
Sorry, if it was discussed here already but what the hell happened with Suninen? Was outside the whole weekend and couldn't follow but it was a very strange off...
I should say driver error maybe bcs of missing pacenote or smth... slide which he couldn´t return and went off. Heard on Swedish television that one wheel was ripped off. Couldn´t continue.
This season reminds me of 2013 when there was the last change of guards, Ogier was pretty much untouchable and it took Latvala another year until he started challenging him. Neuville finished second back then with 114 (I think) points behind, I have a feeling this season will finish the same way.
Colin Clark's Rally Portugal rating: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/colin...river-ratings/
9 for Kalle. For example Elfyn got 10 in Monza 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Yes I honestly have no clue why Kalle didn't get 10/10 here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I thought exactly the same. First on the road and 25+5. What else could he do? And it wasn't like someone was leading and he was lucky. No, he fought with Evans and won it fair and square.
Sordo smashing the balls
https://twitter.com/nocontext_rally/...34041985785858
Animated schematic showing how Portugal unfolded
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/10073666/