True, though he has been around rally all his life as his father is still a top-five driver in Japan Rally Championship. Of course, he raced F3 rather than exactly following his dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
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True, though he has been around rally all his life as his father is still a top-five driver in Japan Rally Championship. Of course, he raced F3 rather than exactly following his dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Recommend watching SS13 onboard with Ogier and Neuville.
Two wet areas around 5-7 min and 9-11. Ogier maybe more rain (less visibily), Neuville more water on road. Specially on the straights with huge amounts of water Neuville was downright crazy.
10sec penalty for Fourmaux after cutting on a SS14. He drops 0.1 behind Greensmith with this.
It was quite clear, but I wonder where the limits were, there was a lot of cutting/non-road driving this rally, but Fourmaux was the only one who got a penalty?Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
President Uhuru Kenyatta announces that an agreement has been reached between GoK, FIA and WRC to hold Safari Rally every year, until the year 2026.
#WRCSafariRally2021
Sorry if it was already posted but I didn't find it by search.
Crash of Tejveer Rai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myL100W-2xk
Often the difference is when there is an obstacle they don't go around. Like in this case with the trees.
Although in Monte Carlo they gave penalties for all drivers that went 4 wheels of the road through a field to cut a corner.
In Jamoul his defence, he says the rules changed (so I presume after Monte Carlo) and he thought it was allowed what they did.
Great. What a fantastic rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
Toyota and Zebra scene from the Safari Rally. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...82770&sfnsn=mo
At least he didnt lose a place to another team driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
It seems a harsh penalty for what he did.
( BTW,when I watched the Safari rally documentary the other day it showed it used to be the case that you could go any way you wanted between the time controls. If a road was really bad, like flooded or deep mud, some driver's used to drive through the field alongside for miles and then back on the road where it was better.)
Well not really going any way you wanted between time controls, you still had to follow the road book. Cutting just has been more laid back in the past, watch Alen on any super special. And in addition, now you have cameras on the car reporting every single second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Penalty was ok for me. He certainly did it to gain a competetive advantage, avoiding two mid-speed corners on the straight.
Oh, I know how it works at the events :) I'm just too used to F1/WEC where there are one place to find the docs for every event. I take it that in WRC it's on the event organizers web page for every event?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
guys what about the pirelli tyres?Good or bad at Safari?
To be honest I expected more punctures.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Afaik there were 2 "real' punctures. One each for Neuville and Tanak on friday. Both on last stage of the leg and I think both on used? softs (not sure).
Other two of Neuville were tires off rim or broken rim. Think Fourmaux also got tire off rim on PS.
Question is if the tire was now made too hard so it breaks suspension instead, or they run it with higher pressure?
(Ogier, Greensmith and Neuville here, Sordo in Sardinia also lost wheel and rolled the car with tire intact, Mikkelsen also apparently broke a damper on the "pre safari' Pirelli test, might even wonder about both Solberg retirements here as well as Evans )
Who took the pictures?
The second one is definitely a candidate for the best rally pic of the year.
This one i wanted to quote,Quote:
Originally Posted by andyone
Seb applied for Japanese citizenship. To get 3 more seasons in Toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Takamoto, welcome to the WRC podium for the first time in your career. What is the feeling to be here right now?
TK:
Very happy, let’s say. It is a special feeling after a tough weekend and very long. In beginning of the week I was not well and had food poison (ing) and was quite sick
https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-s-ogier...tely-delivered
amazing imho photo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E46Yp91X...jpg&name=large
Seemed ok I think, but a lot of the roads were soft and not so hard on the tyres. I think Greece will be a lot worse for the tyresQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
At World i think, 2nd one at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by linni
What stage were those giraffes on again on Friday?
Does that mean that the constant criticism of Chris Ingram on this forum will stop now? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
It might not have been everyone's cup of tea, but I loved this rally. First time in a long time I've watched every minute of every stage on All Live (admittedly, on delay). Thanks must go to those who made it possible, including Mr Todt. It really shouldn't have been away so long... Hopefully this encourages the WRC to have a greater respect for the sport's heritage going forwards.
Quite provocative question, to keep "the thread flowing" for few more days? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Till there is someone who thinks that Ingram is the Man and serves high(er)-level contract and opportunity, there is someone who thinks opposite. Simple as that. No chance it ends :)
I would say Safari gave what I expected. It was tough, unexpected and unique. It was very fast at times, and very slow at others. It wasn't the old Safari, not even like in 2002, but it's still a Safari Rally just as much as Monte is Monte in its current edition.
What I was afraid of before rally - it will be pure lottery of punctures and other technical failures. Friday gave scary perspective with a lot of retirements and quite some punctures. Saturday was opposite and even boring, only last-stage rain gave this lottery, but it's not Safari specific - it may rain everywhere. Also from Sunday there was not any too rough conditions related dramas anymore. Probably drivers just learned from Friday and adapted.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
For me only Safari specific retirement or problem for WRC cars was Rovanperä stuck in Fesh-Fesh. It is combination of road condition and luck but this is not an example which advertise this rally from positive side. If we look stage results for lower-class, there were many cars stuck in the middle of the road and not getting stuck maybe was not even an option. From those problems hopefully everyone learned and it's more enjoyable next time.
From pure-sportic point of view - it's also not that nice, that you can achieve 6th place with 10min loss, 7th place with 30min loss and 10th place 50min loss. Only 1 WRC2 competitor and this one retired. Hopefully list of competitors will increase when COVID restrictions are lowered but travelling to Kenya will be expensive (compared to Europe events) anyway.
Rovanpera getting stuck was imo a combination of multiple things... organizers not used to roads getting destroyed so much and Rovanpera not used to driving trough that. Ultimately he got stuck cause he eased off from throttle (cause he couldn't see) and then digged in after flooring it again.
I would say the organizers already learned and applied the lesson on Sunday, "repairing" the last part of PS.
The low amount of entries outside of Kenya is imo a combination of COVID, dates in calendar (one week after one ERC round and one week before another, Sardinia and Estonia also quite close) as well as Rally2 entries not knowing what to expect. Guess most expect retirement lottery and therefore nobody came. I would expect more Rally2 entries next year (say 6-8 instead of 2 this year), but it will off course never be as packed as a European round.
To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.
And also proximity of Sardegna and Estonia, especially for a privateer, and considering quarantines.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/how-t...rs-reputation/ Thumbs up for the Safari Rally
On a 5000km endurance rally getting stuck for an hour is no immense problem. On a 300km sprint that should not happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Especially not when drivers get penalised for driving next to the road. If we allow undrivable roads we should also allow drivers to not use them.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier...nt-as-drivers/ Ogier and Tanak liked the Safari adventure.
As we can see, no one got stuck for an hour in this Safari. Tow trucks were present at the worst places, and their usage was permitted. Getting stuck just resulted in some minutes of time loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Even 5 minutes is too long on such a short event.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Either ist endurance, and then they need a lot more km's to make it so. Or its sprint and then staying on the normal tracks should not make you get stuck.
Rovanpera should have been given a notional time, just like all the others, because it was due to the conditions of the road. Just like when another car blocks the road or a fence is closed. It's beyond the competitor to do anything about it, so they should not be punished for it.
He was the only car that got stuck. Toyota should've raised the ride height and Kalle should'nt have slowed down so much (although I understand why he did)Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Nelly Ron
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WRC Safari Rally 2021 has attracted over 848 million TV viewers in 150 countries, making it one of the most watched global events this year
The difference then was you could get outside assistance and service at stage side and from your team helicopter. No-one ever retired just by getting stuck or a car breakage other than a blown engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL