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yep we have to take positives, he is leading the championship, last year at the same time we were trailing almost by 70 points.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissucool
some guys from estonian forum said they watched the replay and already before the spin Ott said: "its gone"
Yes he is still there....Quote:
Originally Posted by torsteinrp
Not quiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Indreq
Ott is not going to win any championships ever with that fragile toyota.
exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Any news?Quote:
Originally Posted by torsteinrp
What a pity for Tanak. I'm really gutted for him.
He is leading but to win the championship you can't throw points like that.
Anyways, he showed incredible speed this weekend and his rivals are making mistakes as well. He has big chances this year.
Happy for Sordo, he deserves it!
Mikkelsen drives for himself, in addition for the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissucool
I do not like team orders in Motorsport. But I can understand it makes sense in the latter parts of the season, but we are not there yet.
Neuvilles expression on the TV pictures with a Mikkelsen on a high after the PS was priceless!
Hyundai Motorsport
@HMSGOfficial
#WRC To our friends at @TGR_WRC, @OttTanak & Martin, you totally deserved the victory after a truly impressive performance this weekend. Sorry, we weren't able to share the podium with you today... #HMSGOfficial #RallyItaliaSardegna
Neuville moving
this hurts as hard as last years wales :(
would have been so happy to go the summer break and now it takes all the summer break to get over this
rallying is so harsh sometimes
Neuville got help from marchalls, pushing the car from the power stage parking. Is that really allowed?
video of it https://www.facebook.com/paulfraikin...87130208308934Quote:
Originally Posted by erikli2
is it allowed?
manufacturers championships standing:
Hyundai 242p
Toyota 198p
Citroen 170p
M-Sport 152p
Surprisingly top3 fight stays very intense. Unlucky Tanak, lucky Ogier.
Great to see Sordo getting second victory of his career.
Impressive drive by Andreas, he recovered from the downtime of previous rallies.
Also nice job by Suninen, I guess the Co-Driver gave him inspiration.
If it had been blocking or partly blocking the road for other competitors then no problem, but from the parking area I am not sure. During the Power Stage is the rally suspended for the top teams while they wait for the whole group to complete their runs and spray the champagne?Quote:
Originally Posted by erikli2
It was parked. No threat to others, not blocking others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
On the other hand if it had to happend, this was the place,Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
since Ogier and Neuville weren't 2nd and 3rd.
Would've hurt more in that case
Suninen and Meeke do bump start yesterday, now it's Huyndai try with NeuvilleQuote:
Originally Posted by eib1
It's all a matter of timing, better for it to happen now, than in Turkey or Spain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mise
i am sure i ve seen plenty times cars to be pushed at parc fermeQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
It's very fair and interesting point. Very interesting what CoC think about thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
By marshals?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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Originally Posted by KKS
WRC Regs Art 42.3 PUSHING A CAR IN THE PARC FERMÉ
Only the officials on duty and/or the members of the crew are authorised to push a competing car inside a parc fermé.
aahh. Sorry. My bad. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Exactly. Spotted the same. One corner before it's not heavy but such nasty landing by right side on a rock, that maybe caused a problemQuote:
Karlip �� @Karlip1 1h1 hour agoMore
From the onboard it looked like the steering went heavy before the corner and Ott just didn't know what to do until he started using force to turn it. What a sad day yet again for Estonian rallying, but we'll get over it as there are more rallies ahead. #WRC#WRCLive
Yes, it is allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by erikli2
The Toyota World Rally Championship team has explained that a steering problem cost Ott Tanak Rally Italy victory.
Tanak led Sardinian event by nearly half a minute going onto the final stage and looked set to collect a fourth win of the season and third in a row.
Instead, he suffered a heartbreaking final-stage failure that left him fifth at the finish.
Tanak's Yaris WRC was not the first to suffer steering problems in Italy, with team-mate Jari-Matti Latvala forced off the road on Friday when his steering locked solid.
Toyota chief engineer Tom Fowler suspects the two incidents are related.
"It Looks like Jari-Matti [pictured below] and Ott have had the same issue," Fowler told Autosport.
"It's not something we have seen before.
"All we know is that the components that came to this rally were all from the same group and all sealed here together.
"So we've had something happen in that batch that doesn't seem to be correct."
Fowler and his team will investigate the steering problem as soon as the car arrives back in Estonia.
"We've got [to look at] the complete system, so it's hard to know what it could be," he said.
"We will go away and investigate, but today it's difficult to say what it is. We need to check everything, but the feedback from the driver is the same."
Fowler added that he did not think it was heat related - despite some of the hottest conditions in recent years being experienced in Italy.
"We've run in conditions as hot and demanding as this before," he said.
"From the timing, it looks like a batch-related thing. The parts are brought in as an assembly and put into the car."
Tanak's problem handed a second WRC win to Hyundai's Dani Sordo.
But with title rivals Thierry Neuville and Sebastien Ogier enduring tough weekends, Tanak's fifth place was still enough to move him into the WRC points lead.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...cost-tanak-win
So...
Tanak: Superb, then despair. But did gain on his rivals. I would love to know whether this was a technical problem or driver error. [Edit: hah! See post above.]
Ogier: Terrible. Hit a great big rock in plain sight that he'd been past several times. Somebody suggested that the C3 is pushing him over the edge like Meeke last year, and that does seem plausible.
Neuville: Poor. Talked about car problems. Ended Friday with bad road position, and apparently you don't come back in Sardinia from that unless everything is wonderful.
All the top three in the championship were lucky that the rest of the top three did badly.
Sordo: on Friday morning, the commentator said "this is not exactly a Dani Sordo rally". Which is absolutely true. But road position and Tanak's off gifted him a win, and he didn't screw up. Well, good for him. I like the guy, he deserves a win.
Mikkelsen: also had good road position. Threw it away a little on Friday morning with the wrong tires, but not enough to sink him. Drove well from there, deserves his good result, congratulations.
It is often said that you can take a good driver and make them reliable, but you can't take a reliable driver and make them fast. Hyundai have found the way: hire extras, leave them out of half the rallies, and good road position will make them faster.
Suuninen: good. Road position handed him a podium shot, and he took it with both hands. Drove well, looks like man who will keep his job, might even be a future star.
Evans: ok/good. Still a decent result even though Mikkelsen passed him.
Latvala: Terrible. Clipped a hairpin and rolled. I really like JML, he's so gloriously nerdy and he gives the best interviews. Also his old fashioned driving style is more fun to watch. If Meeke weren't in it, I'd be a Latvala fan. Poor guy, such a bad year. At least he is at Toyota, Citroen might have fired him today.
Meeke: OK/poor. Did worse than his starting road position. Not knowing the rally hurt him on day one. Perhaps unfortunately he was close to Evans/Mikkelsen on day two -- did he push too hard, did that cause his spin/puncture, everybody at Toyota will be wondering this. Some consolation in that (a) he didn't crash and (b) he beat Latvala.
At the moment, Mr Makkinen can ask himself if it would be so bad to swap one of these two for Rovanpera next year.
Lappi: whatever. Showed some "it might be worth keeping this guy" speed at times, and didn't crash. Seems like the car and/or team orders were slowing him sometimes.
https://sport.postimees.ee/6708824/s...cB87W5I8D4LTY8Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
i dont know if you can see this outside estonia, the steering is turned to right by Ott but the car goes left. Exactly like Latvala on friday and what Fowler confirms.
Then Tänak and Järveoja are having a conversation, mostly Ott who says: "its gone, the steering is gone, its f'cked up, hydraulics, it isnt turning at all"
Martin says "maybe we should do a restart?"
So no Rally Corsica & Rally Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
And no Rally Roma...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Malcolm's words from 2017 about Tänak being back in 2 years' time are looking more and more likely now. Didn't believe them at the time at all.
There is more to this than meets the eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Päss1928
Will be very interesting to see how driver lineups become for next season, across all teams
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Look at Meeke onboard S15. He done nothing wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
It seems that component supplier after another are letting TMR/TGR down, nothing new in there. But when issues are this type e.g. steering jammed, it would be best not to repeat it in Rally Finland stages..