maybe is just outright pace. but you'll never admit that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
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maybe is just outright pace. but you'll never admit that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
M-Sport:
This one is hard to take. @ElfynEvans and @scottmartinat were sensational this weekend, but a puncture on the final stage denies them a deserved victory. They take third place, but we remain immensely proud of them. https://t.co/KI5QFMkl4J
Suninen:
We were third fastest on the Power Stage and gained three extra points. In the rally we scored a nice fifth place. That feels good after a clean driving during the weekend. My condolences to my team mate @ElfynEvans - you drove a perfect rally. https://t.co/z8DXD0eEU7
No comments on Loeb signing?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
So far he only scored 12 manu points (from Monte) for the team. That has to be way below what was expected when he was signed.
also, while meeke admitted he hit something on a cut, there is a picture here of a stage marshall carrying meeke wheel away after the stage. it's clearly in 2 halfs, as if it split under impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
What's there to comment? Hardly Mikkelsen should have done better even considering how this event went. Usual Mikkelsen scenario is that he is on pace for the whole first day, then looses suddenly pace on the next day and crashes or crashes on the third day or smth like this. Sordo and Paddon is the way to go for Hyundai if they are serious about both titles. Paddon had the second best scoring ration in Hyundai for 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I actually hope that Toyota will pick Paddon for the next year as I can't see Latvala get his act together.
Result of Evans and Suninen having more test days and freedom to set up the car to their likingQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
One word: pressureQuote:
- Rovanperä has somehow taken few steps back which is a surprise
They seemed to have been testing on more traditionally Corsican roads whereas the rally ended up being more wide, and fast.Quote:
- Citroën has sacrificed tarmac pace
Quite many technical faults from good position, not so many crashes (only Monte this year).Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
very disappointing... wanted evans to win, it would be good for everyone and the championship.
but rallying is a cruel sport...
potato dog leads the championship now !!!!
+2Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Tanak:
I know how difficult it is to accept this kind of thing happening. This win should be yours @ElfynEvans, but we all know that this sport can be really cruel sometimes. Huge respect to you and the whole @MSportLtd, you were strong this weekend !
#TourdeCorse #WRC #Rallying https://t.co/ZVSjCn2iSL
In WRC history has there ever been another rim manufacturer who delivers faulty products for two season in row or has there even ever been rim issues before? At least can't remember any. Toyota could as well skip the rest of the tarmac rallies if this issue won't be solved. Maybe TGR should have something on a supplier agreement that supplier will pay the costs of lost wins and championships.
Fantastic drive from Elfyn, gutted for him. Reminds me of Poland '16 with Tänak. Anyway good to see that the cars I expected to be slowest on tarmac turned out to be the quickest. :) Also very good rally from Suninen, very consistent overall, with fast stage-times today. Being 1m25s from the win after 350km SS is quite close, keeping in mind that he didn't do the event with a WRC car before.
Maybe such proposal wouldn't sound too attractive if you're a rim supplier... But sure there is work to be done at TGR. Mäkinen confirmed in a Finnish interview that they had stronger rims in Corsica than they had in Monte but that obviously didn't fix the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
We are talking about Loeb, or actually we are not cause you talk about everyone else except Loeb.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
The Loeb that was top 3 on just about all stages that he finished last year:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryin...-2018/1736149/
compare that to this:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entryin...-2019/2121690/
I don't believe Loeb suddenly forgot how to drive.
Loeb was hired to get better results than Sordo or Mikkelsen (otherwise there was little point in hiring him). So far in 2/3 rallies he finished behind them.
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If you want to talk about other drivers then I wrote 4 pages back that it was good decision for Hyundai to use Sordo here instead of Mikkelsen... cause Loeb didn't perform. Mikkelsen would likely not have performed better than Sordo. He did finish 7th last year without crashing, Loeb 8th this year with 2 crashes (without them his pace puts him around Suninens position).
There is a certain patter at Hyundai:
Paddon struggles -> Mikkelsen is hired
Mikkelsen struggles -> Paddon is kicked and Loeb is hired
Loeb struggles -> ? (ran out of drivers to hire?)
3 out of 5 drivers that drove the car so far struggled on rallies where they did well just a year before. (Sordo struggled only on rallies where he never did well (FIN, GB). I'd say Hyundai should focus more on making the car/driver combinations work than on switching drivers.
he knows exactly how it feelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
poland 2016 anyone?
gutted for Evans
Maybe toyota should stop asking for lighter an less strong rims than the other manufacturers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
As far as i know they all use oz racing rims. So if only toyota's fail that must mean they use a different, less strong spec than the others.
But i assume that using heavier rims would affect their performance.
Lets not put it all on the rims. Tanak and Meeke are always quite aggressive on the cuts, which might be also play a role.
Is Neuville less aggressive? I don't think so. Let's remember how his suspension kept braking constantly through the last season from cutting...Quote:
Originally Posted by USER47
WRC+ studio has had a lot of guests from different partners / companies in past rallies. For next Germany and Catalonia rallies they could invite person from OZ Racing to talk about WRC rims manufacturing, testing, differences between teams etc. It would be very interesting since it seems to be the decider of the titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Also Michelin's Arnaud Rémy is interviewed every morning and afternoon, but WRC crew has never dared to ask about anything related punctures.
I'm sorry but unless they have some sort of very loosely written contract they can't say a shit about anything related to the particular manufacturers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Japé
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Plus Tänak in the M-sport days very rarely had punctures and he drove way more aggressively back then compared to now IMO.
watch Neuville at 4,37 touching a kurb
https://youtu.be/X1QQrxuQZrQ
No-one could say a thing if this resulted in a puncture...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The Italian sports director of Hyundai Motorsport celebrates the success of Thierry Neuville very soberly.
Out of respect, no doubt, for their rivals who had lost everything in the final stage but also in all objectivity, Andrea Adamo did not boast, far from far, when taking stock, more than mathematically positive, of this Tour de Corse in Paris. The result of which his rider and his team take the lead of the two championships.
"We actually finished first in the standings, but we can not really say we won this rally," Andrea Adamo confessed after the finish. "We inherited the win following the setbacks of a competitor faster than us, we should have finished in second place, which would have been encouraging Thierry and Nicolas have made a great rally. for three days, but to really win you must be the fastest and that was not the case.Sure we take the 25 points with pleasure.It is positive, a big shot of moral boost. for the whole team, but we have to be realistic and honest with ourselves, and in terms of pure performance, we are not where we want to be. "
A fair speech and analysis that Thierry Neuville and Nicolas Gilsoul must appreciate. Hyundai does not expect to rest on these laurels at all. Obviously the Toyota and the Ford were generally faster on the asphalt. And we will have to try to correct that for Germany.
https://lessportsplus.dhnet.be/moteu...medium=twitter
pppfff....how on earth he didnt get a puncture with this? incredible, very luckyQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
GHrallyemotion video
https://youtu.be/BB8rLgLV6gQ
Evans puncture is at 3:28 of his onboard, looks like hole in the road and he started breaking right into it. Neuville drove in same spot more to the left, Ogier and seemingly Meeke more to the right (didn't watch others)
The spot where Tanak and Latvala got puncture is on the other picture on 1:35 of his onboard.
- Latvala cuts massively multiple times also on the corners before, could have gotten puncture on any of them
- Meeke didn't cut, nothing in notes either way
- Evans had "caution don't" and didn't cut
- Loeb and Sordo didn't cut (don't understand their notes)
- Lappi and Ogier are hard to say, audio is low and the car doesn't react over that spot
- Suninen prbly cut a bit but no big impact
(Neuville's onboard on that stage is not available)
Maybe they should just ask to have the same strength as others. If I remember correctly at the Monte they admitted they were pushing to have lighter rims and maybe they went too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
so all categories at Corsica changed leader at power stage.
Have it happened again?
WRC2 Pro didn't change :)
this couldnt change ,just 1 crew finished lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Press conference https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-t-neuvi...ns-not-bad-one
It was quite a big battle this weekend. What was the feeling when Thierry won?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
AA:
Honestly, I was ready to accept the defeat. I’m very clear with myself, the team and the car performance. I couldn’t ask Thierry and Nicolas for miracles because they already exceeded the physical limits. I was pretty ready to accept the second place. It would have given us the lead in the Manufacturers’ FIA World Rally Championship. I’m happy but I’m realistic. Meeke’s puncture helped us to gain a place.
https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-t-neuvi...ns-not-bad-one
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"Q:
Andrea Adamo, yesterday you felt that Thierry was the one leading the rally and not the team. How do you feel now?
AA:
I cannot say that I’m not happy but without the punctures, we wouldn’t have won. We have to recognise that the team wasn’t at its best this weekend. I don’t think we won as Hyundai. Thierry won, Hyundai didn’t."
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Sounds like it's aimed both on the car and Sordo +Loeb.
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Q:
How confident are you moving forward to Argentina?
AA:
I’m realistic: we have to be more competitive. We have two crews well-placed in the starting order. I hope we won’t have any crashes in Argentina. We lost an opportunity in Mexico. We have to focus on being more competitive.
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This is clearly aimed at both Mikkelsen (Mexico) but also Loeb here.
Fun chap to work with I guess ;)
look how Neuville takes that corner at 1:45, compared to Ogier in the beginning of the video, Tänak at 2:25 and Evans at 2:55. Amazing late braking by Ciamin at 3:05, i was sure he was going straight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TM3tWbff-w
Huge differences indeed! Good video, thanks for posting!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Pity with Meeke, Latvala & Tanak all changing wheels due to punctures we couidnt get to see the way the wheels were damaged...
And Evans puncture was so strange damaging the tyre just going over a bit of rough road. I have driven over some awful roads at speed over many years and never once got a wheel or tyre damaged.