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16th October 2018, 13:42
Tom206wrc

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Originally Posted by tomhlord

On or before the 18th, if the rumour mill is accurate. Very soon if that's true.

Thanks so tomorrow wednesday, or thursday :)
16th October 2018, 13:46
Tom206wrc

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Originally Posted by Rally Power

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Btw, what about Abu Dhabi? Will they continue with Citroen, move to another team or pull out from the series?

I guess Abu Dhabi continues with Citroën, as when the official news abour Ogier was written it said: "Citroën Abu Dhabi Team welcomes Sébastien Ogier and Julien Ingrassia" :confused:
16th October 2018, 14:21
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by AL14

Poor Nagle, when he aknowledged about Toyota interest he should have been like "oh god, not again" :D

Kidding, I'm happy the separation seems to be amicable. We will miss his "Jesus Christ Kris" :)

It would take a strong mind to get back into a WRCar with Meeke after so many big crashes... and espcially that last one.
16th October 2018, 14:23
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by Rally Power

Yep, that would be great, but without a major sponsor it’s easier to believe it’ll be Paddon or Breen, rather than both, alongside Suninen. Plus paying drivers (including Block) rotating on a 3rd car.

Btw, what about Abu Dhabi? Will they continue with Citroen, move to another team or pull out from the series?

What about Red Bull... will they go with Ogier ? They always seem to back the champion.

It'd be great if they stayed backing M-Sport but I cant see it...
16th October 2018, 14:24
dupanton

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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

I guess Abu Dhabi continues with Citroën, as when the official news abour Ogier was written it said: "Citroën Abu Dhabi Team welcomes Sébastien Ogier and Julien Ingrassia" :confused:

Wasn't there some clash between Abu Dhabi and Red Bull? Don't remember it exactly, but I think it was discussed here in the past.
16th October 2018, 14:27
tommeke_B

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Originally Posted by dupanton

Wasn't there some clash between Abu Dhabi and Red Bull? Don't remember it exactly, but I think it was discussed here in the past.

I heard RedBull is partly owned by people from Qatar, and the two wouldn't go together. Let's hope both M-Sport and Citroën have one of them...
16th October 2018, 14:54
er88

Red Bull are with Ogier and Citroen.
16th October 2018, 15:46
gheeD

https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-10460215

Miika Wuorela now putting out the news that what we already "knew" is fact and will be officially confirmed on wednesday ?
16th October 2018, 15:53
racerx1979

Interesting they mention Juho. I think Juho would have been the perfect Sordo (points man) for Toyota. They now instead have 3 guys who all want to be world champions. It will be interesting to see how Tommi manages things. He's done well so far..
16th October 2018, 16:07
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by racerx1979

Interesting they mention Juho. I think Juho would have been the perfect Sordo (points man) for Toyota. They now instead have 3 guys who all want to be world champions. It will be interesting to see how Tommi manages things. He's done well so far..

Would have taken again half a season for Juho to settle in and find the pace
16th October 2018, 16:14
tomhlord

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

It is true.

Rally Legend appears to have been an indicator for something at least.

A shame, Paul's reactions are priceless. Hope he finds another ride to continue his career and that the person alongside Kris is a good fit.
16th October 2018, 16:17
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by tomhlord

Rally Legend appears to have been an indicator for something at least.

A shame, Paul's reactions are priceless. Hope he finds another ride to continue his career and that the person alongside Kris is a good fit.

Meeke did Rally Legend with Brannigan last year already. He could be on the short list, who knows.
16th October 2018, 16:19
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Would have taken again half a season for Juho to settle in and find the pace

As far as I've been told, Juho was seriously considered for this. He has done his share of testing this season, with good testing pace, and on events he brings in his laid back and relaxed atmosphere to the team.
16th October 2018, 16:28
Allez Andruet

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Would have taken again half a season for Juho to settle in and find the pace

Probably the gap would not have been as big as it was at the start of 2017, but ok, that doesn't matter now. Interestingly the same could apply for Meeke as well - not to the same extent, but I wouldn't be surprised if Meeke himself had some ring rust to shake off during the first rallies of 2019.

And just to make it clear, it wasn't the point to compare Juho and Kris directly against each other.
16th October 2018, 16:34
tomhlord

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Meeke did Rally Legend with Brannigan last year already. He could be on the short list, who knows.

Ah, fair enough, I guess another consideration would be recent knowledge of WRC events too.
16th October 2018, 16:35
tomhlord

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

Probably the gap would not have been as big as it was at the start of 2017, but ok, that doesn't matter now. Interestingly the same could apply for Meeke as well - not to the same extent, but I wouldn't be surprised if Meeke himself had some ring rust to shake off during the first rallies of 2019.

And just to make it clear, it wasn't the point to compare Juho and Kris directly against each other.

But also, for Meeke, no knowledge of Turkey and missing any new stages in the second half of 2017 certainly won't help.
16th October 2018, 16:41
mknight

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Originally Posted by racerx1979

Interesting they mention Juho. I think Juho would have been the perfect Sordo (points man) for Toyota.

He's nowhere near Sordo's stability and never has been (even at Skoda). Last year he crashed in just about every round in first half of season, in Corsica even twice.
16th October 2018, 17:22
AnttiL

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

As far as I've been told, Juho was seriously considered for this. He has done his share of testing this season, with good testing pace, and on events he brings in his laid back and relaxed atmosphere to the team.

I know, but it still would have been Juho's last season, and half of it would have been settling in for maybe a podium pace, like 2017. Had he continued to 2018, he could have kept that pace already from the start of the season. But it's if's and but's all over. Juho lost a lot of chances on his career before this as well.
16th October 2018, 18:09
T16

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

It is true.

I can confirm. 100% true.
16th October 2018, 19:32
RAS007

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

What about Red Bull... will they go with Ogier ? They always seem to back the champion.

It'd be great if they stayed backing M-Sport but I cant see it...

I wouldn't have thought so. They'll go where Ogier goes, which leaves M-Sport without a major sponsor, again. I can't figure out why they can't attract one.
16th October 2018, 19:35
RS

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Originally Posted by RAS007

I wouldn't have thought so. They'll go where Ogier goes, which leaves M-Sport without a major sponsor, again. I can't figure out why they can't attract one.

Maybe if there is a clash between Abu Dhabi and Red Bull, then Al Qassimi can take his cash to MSport.
16th October 2018, 20:22
GravelBen

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Rumours appear to be true: https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-of-wrc-return

I'm pretty sure the 'speculation from NZ' Evans is talking about is a joke post on a facebook rally group, so I wouldn't read too much into that 'source' at least. Not sure what that says about his other sources though...
16th October 2018, 20:47
Toyoda

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Originally Posted by GravelBen

I'm pretty sure the 'speculation from NZ' Evans is talking about is a joke post on a facebook rally group, so I wouldn't read too much into that 'source' at least. Not sure what that says about his other sources though...

A great joke post it was!, but it is food for thought, considering there was no real or minimal acknowledgement of Read, and it was reaaaaaaally last minute.
16th October 2018, 21:17
racerx1979

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Originally Posted by RS

Maybe if there is a clash between Abu Dhabi and Red Bull, then Al Qassimi can take his cash to MSport.

You guys should have seen Qassimi's yacht docked during Rally Turkey.... It was more like a modern cruise liner lol.
16th October 2018, 23:54
noel157

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Meeke did Rally Legend with Brannigan last year already. He could be on the short list, who knows.

Derek Brannigan unlikely to be on a short list. Has tested with Meeke a good few times, couple of Legends and various national events past 20 odd years. Maybe one or two RGB outings but no WRC experience.
17th October 2018, 00:31
er88

Surprised Chris Patterson hasn't been mentioned...
17th October 2018, 05:29
Allez Andruet

So today's the day then...
17th October 2018, 05:32
Toyoda

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

So today's the day then...

It's been today for the last 18 hours :)
17th October 2018, 06:06
AnttiL

https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-10460210

Miika Wuorela writing a sort of bitter column (in Finnish) about how senseless it is for Toyota to hire Meeke and how expensive it will become for the team.

Once we see the results of the combination, we can speculate if Paddon, Evans, Breen, Tidemand, Hänninen or Huttunen would have done better.
17th October 2018, 06:26
wrc2017

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-10460210

Miika Wuorela writing a sort of bitter column (in Finnish) about how senseless it is for Toyota to hire Meeke and how expensive it will become for the team.

Once we see the results of the combination, we can speculate if Paddon, Evans, Breen, Tidemand, Hänninen or Huttunen would have done better.

bitter little man. he knows nothing.
17th October 2018, 06:34
EstWRC

well, at the present moment we all know nothing.

or do you already know the results for 2019?
17th October 2018, 06:45
wrc2017

well, i know more than him. that is a fact. And im no journalist.

https://twitter.com/MiikaWuorela/sta...43069916860416
17th October 2018, 07:01
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by noel157

Derek Brannigan unlikely to be on a short list. Has tested with Meeke a good few times, couple of Legends and various national events past 20 odd years. Maybe one or two RGB outings but no WRC experience.

I noticed the same that his WRC experience is non-existent. It'd be a risk to go with him in that sense. Maybe they continue to co-operate in the manner they have been so far.
17th October 2018, 07:03
Hartusvuori

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Originally Posted by Allez Andruet

So today's the day then...

Apart from Meeke's co-driver I think we have chewed these news already... Or can we expect Citroen to announce anything on Loeb, like this year?
17th October 2018, 07:37
Franky

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

or do you already know the results for 2019?

What, you haven't started to warm up your crystal ball yet?!
17th October 2018, 07:37
Allez Andruet

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Apart from Meeke's co-driver I think we have chewed these news already... Or can we expect Citroen to announce anything on Loeb, like this year?

Think you're right. Hard to see how today's "news" would be news (Meeke's co-driver aside) after everything we've been told during the past week or so. As much as I'd love to hear some news about Loeb and Citroen in 2019, I think that will be left for another day (if anything's about to happen regarding that combination in the first place...).
17th October 2018, 08:09
Tarmop

If you remember the tweet by Elena, where he gave us confirmation about Lappi pretty much, you also remember reading from there that "from us, it`s good bye WRC".
17th October 2018, 08:42
EstWRC

It is out guys https://twitter.com/tgr_wrc/status/1...280227328?s=21

Wow...a month or two ago I thought this guy is done with wrc.

But he gets another golden ticket to return.

Congrats
17th October 2018, 08:49
T16

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

It is out guys https://twitter.com/tgr_wrc/status/1...280227328?s=21

Wow...a month or two ago I thought this guy is done with wrc.

But he gets another golden ticket to return.

Congrats

Get in.
17th October 2018, 08:51
EstWRC

Lappi news https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...oyota/3196378/

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