how it MAY look a 2017 ngi20
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how it MAY look a 2017 ngi20
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The current cars gives me a buzz don't get me wrong, but i don't feel the 2017 cars adds much. Just have to wait to see it in real life i guess :) They ruined the RX cars with the new ALS rules so they don't need to have the bang bang type anymore, don't ask me what changed, boost control maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Hmm, well matter of taste I guess. As for the future cars don't expect that much sideways in the corners I guess. As for the rest they look little more spectacular as pure vision. But we'll see what hey come with at the end, it is early to say for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Actually, WRC’s were previously leveled with R5’s in WRC2, running in RRC specs with the 30mm restrictor. Unwisely, FIA decided to impose the 28mm restrictor at the end of 2015. If they kept 30mm, RRC’s could still be competitive in WRC2 and other international or national series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
With the permanent evolution of R5’s cars, 30mm RRC’s would hardly dominate those series and outdated WRC’s could easily run some years more, without the need to create another (hopeless) competition inside WRC.
I think that in WRC2 RRC cars, even with 28mm restrictor still would be competitive, mainly not because of speed, but because of relability. As most of R5 cars struggle to do complete WRC loops full throttle. So RRC even if slower then in long term could win. Of course to run RRC it costs much more than R5, so that's also the reason those cars disapear.
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nach...ut-auf-paddon/ not only portugal but also in Sardegna Paddon will be the N.3 car...
Logical because he was 2nd there last year.
From reading and watching exploded views from sadev it seems they have a transfer case built into the front "differential" housing but it it mechanically locked to the same speed front and rear.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
That's how I understood it.
Has Paddon and Neuville ever competed in the Shell team together, before?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
They always seem to make it Paddon and Sordo..
Sweden 2015.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
This makes perfect sense to me. Those who has bought a WRC machine could easily compete in wrc 2 in this way... No need for a new series, no need for banning the old machines, everybody (except N.O.T) winsQuote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
WRC veteran Dani Sordo has revealed he is deciding between a renewal of his contract with Hyundai and a move to another team for the 2017 season.
Similar to teammate Thierry Neuville's deal, the Spaniard's contract will expire at the end of the current season.
While Neuville has been rumoured to join Citroen next year, Sordo himself admitted he is in talks with another team as well as Hyundai, which is thought to be Toyota.
"At the moment I have some conversation with the team [Hyundai] and with another team so it looks good for the next year, we'll see," Sordo told Motorsport.com.
"At the moment it's a little bit early to say anything. The most important thing right now is to have the best rallies possible and to start negotiations after that.
"[I'll stay in WRC] if not in this team then another, I hope.
"Next year Toyota is also coming so there will be more cars and drivers will move a little bit more so it will be interesting."
Everything a "little better" on new car
With a couple of fourth- and sixth-place finishes, Sordo has enjoyed his best season start since he had joined Hyundai, as he currently sits fifth in the drivers' standings.
The 33-year-old praised the new Hyundai i20 introduced this year, highlighting the engine as one of the biggest improvements.
"Everything is a little bit better in the new car," he said. "The only big difference is the new engine, which is much better.
"The chassis is completely different, it's a longer car. In some fast places it's more stable than the car before but is less agile so when it's very twisty it's a little bit worse than before but we have much more interesting points, good points, than with the old car."
Rallycross is "not the same sensation"
Asked if he was tempted to switch to rallycross like former WRC rivals Sebastien Loeb and Petter Solberg, Sordo said he has a clear preference for rallying, as he feels driving on a circuit is not the same.
"For me rally is the top, maybe rallycross is good, but I always dreamed of rallying when I was little," said the Spaniard.
"I also like rallycross because it's a little bit same to rally but on a circuit and it's not the same sensation.
"Driving the car on a circuit is, I don't know, you feel you need something more."
http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/s...medium=twitter
I see Dani will try everycar from the WRC fold before he retires (apart from VW's machine).
The other team has to be Toyota.
Maybe Paddon / Sordo 1/2 for 2017. It'll make Sordo happy no? Why leave if he's happy and comfortable.
Please guys, he is doing what everybody who has to extend a contract does... Talking to others to get a better offer from his actual partner.
It's certainly a great time to be an experienced, averagely quick WRC driver.
Regardless of what happens, I really hope the knock-on of Toyota's arrival is a few more young guns in the WRC. Although we might just have to settle for Lappi and a full season for Abbring.
Not likely. Hanninen and one more top 6 guy must be. 3rd?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Not saying Lappi/Abbring etc would go to Toyota. Just that it would be nice if three more works seats helped bring fresh talent through into the WRC as a whole. Instead of prolonging the careers of average drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Mix of Japanise/Old Foxes (Arai,Katsuta,Mikko,Petter,Tommi etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Or Ford.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
In case of Sadev for R5 it's fully locked - output shaft has two sets of final drive gears locked together - one for front and another for rear.
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Originally Posted by itix
"Ford", now that's a manufacturer name I haven't heard in a long time (in a context of WRC not WRX), I think you ment to say, M-Sport ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
who said it has to be manufacturer team? anyway if we want to be punctual - "M-Sport World Rally Team"Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Come on, i was just kidding :)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Ok, I wasn't:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Sordo is an unusual case, at least to me. I can hardly believe he's only 33. He seems to have been around for a very long time, with comparatively little success, but always seems to get a works drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Sordo has always been in the middle category or just behind the front runners, always bagging points and a good 2nd driver to help the manu championship along... I guess that's why he always manage to stick around.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Spain is a huge car market, we had to bare with Sainz and his past his prime dog driving for years just because of his nationality and telefonica.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Sordo is a good driver though, pity he did not develop his gravel skills to the max.
He came in quite early as he was part of Citroen's driver development (I'm not sure about this maybe someone can confirm). After winning JWRC he replaced Duval and did well as Loeb's lieutenant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Can't say how good he is at developing cars but he was always a very good "number 2" type driver:
- Finish rate (ewrc-results) is 85% (same as Ogier) which is very good. Some more comparisons: Loeb 87%, Hirvonen 81%, Latvala 80%, Solberg 78%, Neuville 73% - note some of these are skewed because of Rally2 (especially Latvala). Also his podium rate is 28% (Hirvonen for example has 42%) not stellar, but not bad.
- He adapted to a variety of cars over the years and kept the same pace.
- Don't know about his personality but he seems to be a nice guy so that helps keep good atmosphere in the team.
Indeed he hasn't had outright success if you count rally wins or title challenges but looking at other drivers that have been around in the past 10 years, if I was a team manager he would have been on my watch list almost constantly.
I take your point about Spain and the car market, but that's where the comparison ends. Sainz won 26 rallies, was a double world champion and was still winning rallies in the early 2000s (Argentina, 2004 was his last victory). Sordo has won once in over 130 starts....Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Also dont forget that Sordo was unlucky being with Loeb for some years.Without Loeb surely he could win plenty of asphalt rallies.http://forum-rallye.com/public/style...ault/sordo.jpg
Generally agree 100% with seb sh post.
wasnt Turkey when he invited for a one off rally from citroen?Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Don't forget Suninen. He still has a link with Toyota (TMG) and is managed by Jouhki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I think you're right, which makes it all the more amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Well, Sainz was not really past of his prime.His last full season was 2004 and he won Rally Argentina.He returned for 2 events in 2005 when Duval burned his car in Cyprus and finished 3rd in Greece and 4th in Turkey.Plus in 2003 he went to GB still with a shot to the title as it also happened in 2001.Not way past his prime in my book...
race..... race..... race... race....Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
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2-door > 4-door. Make it happen, Hyundai!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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I like the bigger cars, and at least it doesn't all look the same. I don't think they will go for 3 door version for 2017 as they probably spent a lot of money developing current version and will want to build on that.
Let's see. I hope he can get a chance. For me he'd be a perfect candidate to do a year in an old spec WRC next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Feels like this has been discussed repeatedly but I don't think Suninen's TMG "deal" gets him anywhere with Makinen/Toyota Gazoo.