It's a very cute car but I couldn't trust the handling to cope with the muppets on UK roads :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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It's a very cute car but I couldn't trust the handling to cope with the muppets on UK roads :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
photos must be from previous weekend from Argentina
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIVS7yVUIAAq4Nd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIVS7yjVoAA1Aoe.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIVS7yYUIAE4QaW.jpg
People's stupidity has no limits...
Video of the spot: https://www.facebook.com/locosdelral...1018102665931/
low life latin americans... their life worth less than that of a sick mouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
HngggQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It's so hard to hold my words back.
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why ? where am i wrong ? you will not see such images even in countries of the eastern europe where rally fans are drunk...Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
The only thing that surprises me is that you can see in the bottom picture that there's a Police officer stood with them! What's the point in him being there if it's not to stop stuff like that...?
And yet, no deaths, not even a single reported injury. It's almost as if the actual numerical risk of standing close to the road on the inside of a corner or along a straight is hugely overstated... Every rally fan understood this until about 10 years ago. Then suddenly everybody got all safety-crazy, damn any consequences to the sport. Well actually, not everybody, mostly older guys who had already enjoyed the less safety-obsessed days and now look down from their little ivory tower onto those foolish kids who actually want to enjoy the sport exactly the same way their forebears did for decades.
taking selfies while not having your eyes on the car or the road is called enjoy the sport ??Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
let me tell you something kid... its those retarded low lifes to blame for the stupid worthless safety regulations we have now...
Every time I think I've read the silliest post but some of you guys are still able to amaze me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
Seems to me like the stupid worthless safety regulations we have now have literally nothing to do with those retarded low lifes, since none of them were reported dead or injured in recent years and yet the regulations keep piling on.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
The one guy who died this year had a laser-like focus on the car as it clobbered him. Much good that did.
Call me silly all you want but nobody has any actual logical refutations to offer. Just more of the same "common wisdom". I need a beer.
The last picture really got me. As a driver you only have a few options in such a scenario. To make the car slide further to the right to avoid these dipshits one would have to accelerate if mid-corner believe it or not. Letting of of the gas or braking will cause the car to plow straight in and acceleration this late in the game would only cause a larger faster impact. I'm assuming these uneducated people moved out of the way to avoid the car or the car was already in the process of going wide in the corner. I would just stop the rally as a driver at this point... way too dangerous. Force the spectators to go home... rally canceled.
https://youtu.be/cX4626zluoo?t=10m55sQuote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
https://youtu.be/cdHeIP5fMbE?t=16s
Two recent examples showing that the inside of a corner can be also dangerous.
OK, so we're saying that the outside is dangerous, the straights are dangerous, and the inside is dangerous. So everything is dangerous, so what place is safe to spectate from? Like, where do you think this spectator safety crusade ends? Do you honestly believe that spectators will always be allowed to be present in one form or another? Do you think that in a few years' time they will still be allowed to help push cars out of the ditch/snowbank as they do now?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
This mindless obsession with safety at any cost is just not good for the sport, that's the only point I'm really making. You guys think that pushing spectators further and further back and limiting spectator zones more and more only increases safety, but it has negative consequences too. Nobody wants to watch from those areas. So there's less interest from the fans, fewer new fans, and an overall decline in the popularity of the sport.
It's a tradeoff, and you can't pretend it isn't one.
@sonnybobiche Which rally did you last spectate?
Do you think it's a good idea to take a selfie on the inside of a corner when a car is coming at you full speed?
probably in a sewage-country where the dream of every dog living there is to border jump into the US...Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
what do you expect from a person that has as a standard of safety that none died... evolution of every species is achieved through prevention of death... but for latin americans that feed on mud that is not the case it seems.
I feed on bread, fyi, and there's no reason why an Argentine would "border jump" to the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You make a valid point and those people are clearly super ignorant, but there's no need to sling insults around, especially not when you generalize an entire continent, basically.
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Ah yes, all those great explorers and innovators that pushed Western civilization forward. How foolish of them not to know that it's actually safety, personal safety above all that's important! I'm American myself, but my parents were mud eaters and I spent some of my formative years eating mud, I suppose. One thing it did teach me is that it's perfectly possible to let people be responsible for their own lives. I have lots of faith in the ability of the common man to weigh risks and benefits for himself, and I have very little faith in the ability of the Mandarins to do it for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I don't understand how you rationalize the need for such nannyism today, given that everything was orders of magnitude less safe in the past, yet there was very little difference in terms of actual outcomes. I guess some people decide to switch off that rational part of their brain when they talk about safety. More important to just parrot what everyone else is saying.
Thats why people voted for Trump...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
Everyone is responsible for their own lives yes but...
did you ask the driver if he wants to dismember those less than humans ?
did you ask the tax payer or the rally organiser if he wants to pay for hospitalizing those less than humans ?
did you ask the spectators if they would like to wait for hours on a cancelled stage ?
did you ask the the rest of the spectators if they would be ok seeing 2 lifeless corpses on their outing to enjoy a rally ?
very few things in life have no consequences to other people as well... but being an ancestor of mud eaters i think its hard to understand.
+ frightening the driver, which could lead (in best case scenario) to time loss because of going out of ideal trajectory or worse, a crash, which can injure/kill the car, occupants or spectators. They have to thank luck, there`s nothing else.
To end this discussion up; that behavour is the worst I´ve ever seen and should be stopped. No other arguments in favour for doing that shouldn´t even be mentioned. A BIG warning to organizers. Watch and take action!
Their lives are worth exactly the same as your life.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
And yes, they are idiots..
But well pretty clear that so are you.
No they are not... grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
They are worth every bit as much as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I grew up a long time ago...Got to be a man to do serious motorsport..
Time you did..
And I don't even know them...
10 year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_0Bqg8bHZI
Closest ever WRC win at the time
Gronholm always amazing to watch!
I thought Miikka Antilla had the most starts?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Also, it's nice to see Latvala has the highest number of starts of any current WRC driver :)
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maybe Antilla has the most wrc starts.
Yep, 190 WRC starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Anttila, not Antilla ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I would take the statistics easy. I don't think they were able to collect everything from all around the globe for dozens of years. You can see a lot of Czech names but that's likely because Czech rally history is better documented in the database (even plenty of very small local events are there).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
For sure Blomqvist and Jonsson have many more starts, considering vast majority of Swedish championship history is missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Finally something where we are first! Beer for everyone! We have to celebrate!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
watch how fast suspension works at a kerb
https://twitter.com/TotalRacingENG/s...63830318002178
Recommendations please.. Any WRC related podcast? I only watch Kitchen's Table.. IDK much stuff. Theres almost no internet signals here in my cave hehe
Absolute Rally is good, Autosport also has a long feature on McRae this week, both on PodbeanQuote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera