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they say only stage 10 is canceled ... World Rally Championship - News - Changes made to Portugal itinerary
Always the same story here with the stage cancellations due to weather...
They could easily compete out there. The main point of the cancellations is that emergency apparatus couldn't move around well enough. I don't want to be trapped in a crashed car while the ambulance and fire truck with normal tyres and maybe even FWD/RWD only are stuck in a mud. Could you take the responsibility? All the cr*p about rallying not being "man" enough is utter BS, even an R2 ride in those conditions would make 80% of you sh*t your pants. Peace out, bros. :up:
I told a few days ago that it will be like in 2001. So, everyone who had proper weather report should have know what to expect. I told Kristo to by a boat for today beacuse they do not have enough proper tyres anyway, he promised to buy fins :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauri A
Obviously drivers nowadays are a bit girly, but don’t forget to mention these stupid tupperware cars, engineered to perfection … only on the computer simulation program :sQuote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Finally somebody who can understant the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
There will be no peanlties for cancelled stages, so the times will be like they were after stage 7Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
Well, I agree partly. Of course there´s a safety issue, but saying that they could easily compete out there is way too much. I know you Juha haven´t been competing yourself, so I shouldn´t do statements like that in your position. It´s not easy conditions, no way. The organizer did just what they had to do and I wrote that an hour ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
A good decision, indeed.
Now let´s hope for a nice Saturday...?
Loeb, Latvala over 100 WRC start, Petter WRC champion.....boys like Novikov, Ostberg running fine- I'm not sure depends only on the ageQuote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Loeb is any example? Loeb has troubles almost every time the conditions are not the usual ones. Look what he usually does on the swedish snow... boom!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZequeArgentina
Latvala is one of the young boys. With 20 years he was almost with a garantee seat on a WRC team.
Petter Solberg is from the old school, but failled.
Old style rallyes could have 1 minute diferences with internet split times & more. Look how intertesting was the stage from today. Sordo gave more than 1 minute to the leader on each stage.
lol, how many times Loeb won in the kingdoms of mud - Wales or Argentina?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Who should come back tomorrow with Rally2? Neuville yes, what about Latvala, Tanak and Solberg?
Well, maybe not easily but it would be just the matter of setting your speed to the correct level with the conditions. As long as all cars can get forward, I see no problems from the competion viewpoint. Safety is though more important and therefore the limiting factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Why you bother?haters gonna hate....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Havent seen Solbergs and Neuvilles car.. Latavala´s car was just out and seems that Tänak also just got stuck outside the roadQuote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I am not sure but Neuvilles ds3 had problem with engine after a river pass.Maybe engine is dead.or seriously damagedQuote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Neuvilles car just stopped after a water splash. I guess some problem with water in the electric systems.
Tomorow start list
Neuville (DS3 WRC)
Tänak (Fiesta WRC)
Latvala (Fiesta WRC)
Sordo (Mini WRC)
P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC)
Araujo (Mini WRC)
Ketomaa (Fiesta WRC)
Kuipers (Fiesta WRC)
Van Merksteijn (DS3 WRC)
Al-Attiyah (DS3 WRC)
Prokop (Mini WRC)
Sandell (Mini WRC)
Ostberg (Fiesta WRC)
Novikov (Fiesta WRC)
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC)
Safety is first, of course. Setting speed right, yes I agree. But non the less it wasn´t easy today for anyone. Riverpasses was the crucial moment and was the part that decided the decision, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Hard to see from the photos but is that river crossing unmanned? Surely there would have to be marshals and a some sort of tow truck/tractor stationed there, can't be that hard to get a local farmer to help out.
Such river on the road is pretty good reason to cancel the stage :-) Remember that day before.. there was just dust!
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Originally Posted by Rallyper
River pass was in a liason, that stage was already cancelled.
The decision was based on the destroyed surfaces that the last cars found on the first run. On the second run they could have a lot of troubles with almost everybody, not only the last ones. The stages and also liasions had many parts completely destroyed.
But there is still another question: Emergency rescue. If an 4x4 ambulance can't run on the stage, then there's no conditions to run the stage. And here was the case.
At the beggining i made a wrong judgement of this cancelation, but now after some calls already know what really happened on the first runs.
So, what? Ford received +15 minutes?
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Originally Posted by bluuford
I hope you took many jackets :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Guess at least Solberg should run ahead Sordo (am talking about classification, not starting order).Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
Thanks to Sordos superb times their time loss is only: Solberg +7:35 Latvala 11:24 and Tänak 11:40Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
No penalties for the cancelled stages. Solberg is just 4 and half minutes behind 3rd place. So, podium is possible :-)
That should be todays final classification among top drivers:
http://www.wrc.com/results/2012/voda...wrc&stageno=10
WEATHER conditions for tomorrow ? Could expect SS's to be Dry ? Wet ? Moody ? Flooded ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Think its 7,35 on petter and 11.24 on jml. If, they are lucky!
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lztrx3jzSe1ql2o5m.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Is there posibility that Ford boss can tell to Novikov and Ostberg to slow down at the finish of rally to get Jari and Petter closer to the podium???
That will happen, for sure. Maybe østberg has in contract that he is out of teamorders, don't think novikov has that in his.
It's not contractual - on the next round less renting fee / free spare parts etc.....it's happened in the pastQuote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
I'd be willing to bet there's nothing in anyone's contract - given that they pay Malcolm, not the other way around - but the offer of a discount off the next invoice would be offered. Or perhaps a special engine at the next event.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Mud in Wales is the usual one. So, no big deal to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Mud is not usual in Portugal. That was a good chance to teste Loeb. But he made a mistake before the mud.
So, I'm assuming the academy boys were cancelled from running ss7? I don't see times?
Not when drivers are 2 and 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASRTmedia
It's also part of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by str4tos
The drivers and cars are optimized to expected conditions, wich are mostly the same year by year. When things change.... Houston we have a problem!
In 2001 the condition here were so bad or even worst than today, and the retirement by offs were much less.
In 2001 we had two retirements by accident between the mais drivers during all the event. Today we had four retirements in only 15% of the event. This is an evidence, not BS
Turning around directly would have let him stay in the rally, I think