i said they were put there to reduce punctures and not because of road deterioration....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
fact...how many punctures did we have ??? Solberg...
bye.
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i said they were put there to reduce punctures and not because of road deterioration....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
fact...how many punctures did we have ??? Solberg...
bye.
Kris has a 3 year contract. Add in that he was highly thought of at PSA in testing & developing cars. People forget he's actually quite inexperienced in a WRCar in WRC events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That proofs nothing. If there are anti-cutting poles to prevent cutting, of course it reduces punctures in the process. So - which was first?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
If I'm not mistaken drivers said on first day most of the poles were removed after recce and yet there was only few punctures ... hence they were not put up to prevent punctures.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
bye.
even if i was wrong (which i am not) i based my assumption on a fact i didn't made it up....
Poles were put there to reduce punctures (according to myself)...we didn't have that many puntures...who wins ??
bye bye.
Please point another source than yourself. Assumptions and inductive thinking is fine, but it doesn't produce facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
the fact is that we had less punctures....so my assumption was correct...
i did not say it because i had to find something wrong with it and nag...
Petter has been disqualified because of an under-weight car -> three more points to the paper champion = Loeb and Hirvonen tied at 196 points now.
Hirvoselle lisäpisteet - tasoissa Loebin kanssa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset
Thisgrace.
That brings Ogier in even better position to attack in spain...nice.
Argumenting with a Greek is a privilege, I'll apologize to eveyone that I'll continue:Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
With anti-cutting poles the product is to preserve road structure and thus make roads available for the sport in the first place. By-product is that with lesser cutting also tyres hold better. You are right that with anti-cutting poles we have less punctures, that is clearly logical, but you suggested that they were put there by the tyre manufactures in order to make them look them better. For that, I need fact, a source.
Shame for Petter :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
Which makes me a bit suspicious.. I'd like to hear what part was missing and when.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
In case of assumptions you wait for the facts to come to prove you right or wrong....the fact (less punctures) proved me right. The poles were there to reduce punctures and was either a suggestion by the tyre manufacturer or the teams. You base assupmtions on leads and wait for the facts to prove you right or wrong. When you critisize someone then you use facts...and in the case of poles the fact was that these poles were introduced only this year to such an extend while the rally was run there for 30 years....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
About the road deterioration the fact that the rally was run in the region for years and years and only this year those poles were introduced, proves that the poles were not there for that reason since if they were there for that, they would employ them last year as well and also during the rally Alsace-Vosges for the last 30-40 years...
we still do not have official information so we have to wait for that....Quote:
Originally Posted by bretddog
Finish media are not very reliable.
You can claim you base your opinions on facts, but the problem is you shriveled up brain cannot interpret facts, so anything that you write is really just nonsensical vomit. It is 99.8% just name-calling...as for technical things, you know nothing. As to what drives people to compete, you know nothing. As to the JOB of driving, you know nothing. Just name calling.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Even the guys like Wilson, Block , even "village idiots" have more worth in THIS CONTEXT than anything you can do, or say or think, because they are at least brave enough to step up to the line and TRY.
You evidently --we really don't know because of the cloak of anonymity you maintain---have never measured your skills, your ability, anything against others.
Just your opinions, which are 99.8% negative broken record crap..
You are NOT even a good fan.
NOT is a nothing.
Moderators, is it possible to finish the NOT's name to read "NotObviously Thinking" or just NOThing?
LOL
good post...
It's not good to insult anybody on the forum.
I still don't approve this for a fact, but it's pointless to argue further. However, I'd point out that referring to rally's history is not completely valid either. During the decades world have changed and definitely not more in favour of rallying. Thus new procedures are introduced, in this case in an extent that it gets a notice by a wider public.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
So Ogier starts 3rd on the road for Catalunya's long, 166 stage km gravel opening day. I'd say in a straight fight he'd have the upper hand now, though running first hasn't slowed Loeb in the past. We'll see. Hopefully it'll be another thrilling event.
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
The poles could have been placed to prevent cars from smoooshing the rare Alsatian Blond Mole, an environmentally sensitive rodent unique the the area which everybody who has driven there is aware of.
They could have been place to ward off Bengal Tigers from wandering into the road.
It is a FACT that neither Alsatian Blond Moles were squished AND a FACT that there were no Bengal Tigers seen running into on any stage.
Therefore it is proven the poles were effective.
FACT.
Prove it was otherwise.
Prove it with FACTS, not guesses and presumptions.
Greekphobia? :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Even i don t agree with NOT most of times,in this case he has a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
It is strange that in rally of France,the French federation decided such a rule for the favour a French tyre manufacture.Specially after so much punctures after Germany.
To produce a more bullet proof tyre you need time.You need a totaly different tyre carcass which is going to create some other problems in tyres behaviour,in cars suspension settings etc.And the time wasn t enough between Germany and France.
Maybe we are not going to know the ''true'' reason,maybe the reason is the road protection.For sure plenty of times things are not as they look.And sometimes some things they cant announced when there is one of the bigger tyre manufacture all over the world.
ps. mates try to be polite in ours dialogue,we re here for our love and not for handbagging. ;)
When it comes to sports during my UK years i had 3 boxing amateur fights representing Newcastle University... Lost 1 won 2 then i got injured and that was that.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
For the last 5 years 2 as a senior researcher and 3 as a phd student i try to find novel proteins/compounds to beat children leukemia... unfortunatelly ony small steps are made in the dark.
i think i contribute far more to the world than a bunch of rich boys parading in their daddys money...
As for anonymity here you can check my scientific work.
Tsolkas g - PubMed - NCBI (5 more on the way but those reviewers are giving me a hard time...LOL)
unfortunatelly the server for my lab at the university is down...but i will get back to you once its up to see my current work.
if you want to see me live (i am very handsome so keep your women away) i will be presenting my work on the 22nd of december in the 62nd bichemistry congress in athens.
Who is insulting who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
98% here are just made up names, they're not real humans as far as we know.
Why is it OK for one or 2 people to continually insult real people as people because they are 1% slower than some other person this time out?
Further, the tone some knowNOThings have is an insult in it's tone and intention to the entire forum and the sport.
Why should a reasonable person continue to treat such an insulting person with any mutual respect?
It has never worked before.
Another proof that he is deceived by the French team, the same car as Loeb and Ogier? That makes me laugh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
Without Citroen + som new factory teams, again we would have a real rally championship.
On the quoted remark I wasn't being sarcastic. Greeks do have a history with argumentation and rhetorics, to put it simple, they had build those foundations.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
ok mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
These things happened for years and they don t proove that is not the same car.Weighting less is an advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Mistakes(or ''mistakes'' if you prefere) we have see for almost all manufacturers at wrc,even in irc.Skoda rear brakes,Fords window glasses etc.
Especially the the French tyre manufacture!!! hahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
4 kg less. Pitty for a good result for Petter..
World Rally Championship - News - BREAKING NEWS: Petter excluded from rally
And Peugeot in the previous IRC rally, you still all have to wake up!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I told you almost all manufacturers.Not the French ones you try to mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brother John
Did you see know who has to wake up?
Imagine if Petter had won, speaking of ups and downs...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Hartusvuori to be fair,when you are very close to weight limit is more likely to have such problems.Ours evo 9 we weight it some 6-8 times in rallies,and some other 6-8 times per year in our scales(corner weighting etc).Almost always the weight is different.And not by 4 kg.We ve seen differences up to 30 kg from different scales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Petter needs to change his number, 11 is unlucky for him.
Also with Solberg disqualified, Hirvonen finished 3rd in the rally, a true paper podium for a future paper champion.
How many races one engine must run? Will it be some penalty for Loeb in next rally for blown engine?
Don't think so...
This engine Loeb used in France must be used also in Spain.If he continue the rally may broke the whole engine( not repairable)In this case they have to use another engine which is 5 minutes penalty if i remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
That mechanic should be stragled. :D
The engine will be repared as it was just an malfunction, no new engine will be needed.
FAO Mintexmemory
“I’m really happy with the outcome of this race. I did exactly what I had to do by looking at Dani and the split times. I took the lead but I did not take the risk.
World Rally Championship - News - Q&A: Sebastien Ogier