vw in f1? Volkswagen prüft Einstieg in die Formel 1
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Mikkelsen/Abbring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Mikkelsen I think. There was talk about a junior team as well, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Earlier I would have bet on Latvala being the second driver but if Mini goes to dumpster and Sordo is available as well then who knows. Luckily for Mikkelsen/Abbring and co. there will be 3rd and maybe 4th car available as well. Either way I guess there won´t be any announcements about the rest of the line-up until after this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
VW does not need a second established driver, they have already Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
second driver in team 1 will be a youngster who already prooved himself in WRC, being Abbring or Mikkelsen.
the junior team is reserved for Sepp Wiegand, getting exprience without the pressure of scoring manufacturer points
Of course they need, main goal for VW in WRC is to win manufacturers title and with either of these youngsters it wont happen very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
VW clearly stated they don't have the intention to fight for the title straightaway in 2013. I'm sure Ogier will be on the pace and maybe in 2014 (one of) the youngsters will have enough experience and speed so VW *can* win the manu title.
One thing is what you say, the other thing is what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
True, but VW knows better than all of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Don't forget that Sainz is protege of Sordo and is in VW.
Just out of interest, is Louis Moya employed by VW aswel?
Slow news day? This seems to come up every year!Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
Had the love between them not gone cold some years ago, when Sordo left navigator Marc Marti out of the car? Sainz cannot keep Sordo high an d dry for year after year. Sainz brought Sordo to the WRC, and guided him the first years. Now Sordo is old and big enough to take care of his own business I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Great job for Sordo in Monte-Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Sordo old? He's just 28. His contract with Prodrive will finish this year...
sordo shouldnt be such a bad choice. in my mind he still is a kind of tarmac expert, but defenetly also not bad on gravel. at least he´s also a top 3-5 driver on gravel and he almost never crashes(actually he didn´t have an off that forced him to retire since 2008!). would be perfect for manufacturer points. on tarmac he´s defenetly very, very impressive!
Sordo is good choice for sure but P.Solberg is better.
Sorry that seat is already taken and neither of these two is on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
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Originally Posted by DonJippo
We'll see.
I think VW has just one driver, and they need another top driver.
think less and read more news. Kris Nissen has already told multiple times what the other drivers will be.
Lol. Abbring and Mikkelsen are the ones in pole position.. Sordo was impressive in Monte Carlo and last year. But he his at his peak same thing with Petter. Kevin and Andreas can only grow and grow!
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Yes, for the 3rd car.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
WV haven't decided yet... don't be too hasty giving away 2nd and 3rd seats to drivers basing your information of nobody journalists and their sources...
Either way we have the whole year for guessing games -> if the 2nd seat goes to a driver from another team then it surely won´t be announced until after the season. So lots of riddles and denying and so on before the case is closed.
Also when VW launched they said they wanted a second team like M-Sport Ford by 2014. I will try to find the source for this.
It will be interesting to see how Mikkelsen does against Ogier this year. He lacks some recent experience of WRC events and turbo cars but I think he has plenty of speed.
I know it is taking a little longer for Latvala to mature but Ogier was already pretty useful for Citroen in only his second year.
well they are both using non-turbo cars this year so mikelsen has the advantage there... but right now they are on a different level...Potential champion vs Ladycup competitorQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
In Sweden mikkelsen might win a few stages...and he is going to be closer to Ogier than normal.
Abbring wil do Mexico, Portugal, Greece, New Zealand, Germany and Wales.
Mikkelsen wil do Sweden, Argentina, Finland, France, Italy and Spain. so the tarmac final of 2012 will be for Mikkelsen
With Juho Hänninen and Jan Kopecky both doing IRC for Skoda again this year, does that mean they will be potentially vying for a seat at VW as well? Obviously they are both talented and already work for the right company, just in a different team... Plus arguably IRC is a better comparison of skill than WRC as there is less of a car difference.
Poeple from NZ must be the happiest people on this earth... i envy you.
Lol Kopecky will never make it to a factory seat. The guy has achieved his peak a long time ago, and u see he won't impress us at all in the WRC.
Well it certainly is a happier place than Greece by all accounts, but I fail to see how that relates to VW.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It relates to everything...trust me...and explains a lot as well...
One has won are cognized championship where as one is known for his speed , crashing abilities and being a whining little bitch .Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
The latter has not won a recognized championship .
Ogier won JWRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
ladycups are ok...no problems with ladycups...but as you can see the goal for ladycup competitors is the big league not the ladycup.
Yes there is a few things going on that brings a smile to ones face, best you make your way out here for the WRC round and stay a few weeks and see what they all are.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Who chose your forum name - Mr Spock? Let's apply the logic that you chose to ignore.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
One has won 7 WRC rounds the other hasn't had a podium sniff. As they say you can prove anything with statistics.
One of them had a multiple World Champion so rattled that he pulled the 'favoured-son' clause in his contract.
On a personal level I've found Seb O to be charming with the fans in all situations and from my observations appears to have warm relationships with all other WRC drivers, bar one ;)
A nice fantasy livery:
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: How can you not see how stupid you make yourself look? Its no wonder so many people view this forum but dont post because of the **** you do!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Kopeckı took two IRC victories with a very small margin. In my opinion that was great. He did better than the overhyped Neuville last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Kopeckı wasn't bad in a private Fabia WRC in the WRC and he has beaten factory drivers there. He was 5th overall in a WRC event with the private Fabia WRC, no other private driver can say that he has done this with that car and has beaten other tarmac experts François Duval and Gilles Panizzi when they also drove the same car in 2006. Even the factory drivers in a Fabia WRC had a 5th place as best result in a WRC round.
Offcourse u want to defend it. But he's at his peak he has no growth marge so he's no use for the VW team because they want winners or drivers who have the potential to win alot in the future!