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14th January 2010, 22:02
JFL

Solberg will be at least 0,5sec slower then Loeb per km.
14th January 2010, 22:05
Francis44

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Originally Posted by JFL

Solberg will be at least 0,5sec slower then Loeb per km.

Cool I see you have a crystal ball, please tell me how many seconds Kimi Raikkonen will loose to Loeb per Km.
14th January 2010, 22:17
JFL

It's not only me that have a crystal ball as you can see here... Kimi will be on average 1.sec. slower, but he will outpace him on the fast sections.. ;)
14th January 2010, 22:23
pettersolberg29

Kimi will not be within 0.5 sec/km of Petter, and that's not just being biased. However Petter probably will be about 0.5 sec/km slower than Loeb on average, although I can see Petter challenging for one or two wins this year - not necessarily winning, but at least challenge well.
14th January 2010, 22:33
JFL

a win if not possible, unless all the factory drivers and maybe the Junior team screws up..
14th January 2010, 22:55
Tomi

My guess is that Petter will be a little slower than last year, maybe on par with Ogier or a bit slower, and Kimi will be very close if not faster on tarmac.
15th January 2010, 00:27
Viking

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

My guess is that Petter will be a little slower than last year, maybe on par with Ogier or a bit slower, and Kimi will be very close if not faster on tarmac.

Then Kimi will be fast :up: Petter was 0,2 s/km off Loeb`s pace in Spain and he won 4 stages.
15th January 2010, 05:12
Helstar

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Originally Posted by Gard

2010 spec? does that exist? Thought all had to be 2009 spec

Same. Clients and Juniors won't take same Loeb and Sordo engine mapping anyway (except the other Sebastian, of course...).

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Originally Posted by MikeD

:rotflmao: good one ... I needed that :rotflmao:

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Originally Posted by Tomi

When you see that happen, try to sleep long as possible.

As already explained above, I think he meant what if Petter happens to find himself in front of Loeb like Rautencrash and Novikov did in a couple of rallies last year when Loeb had troubles ?
Will he park his car for half an hour to let him pass ? He wanted to know about team-orders, that's it ... no need to go mental, you fanboys ^^

Ps. Anyway I always remember you all that Petter is still now the last driver in the world who has beated Mr.Perfection
15th January 2010, 05:51
macksrallye

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Originally Posted by Helstar

Ps. Anyway I always remember you all that Petter is still now the last driver in the world who has beated Mr.Perfection

Last full time competition driver to beat Mr Perfection to a World Championship is what I think you mean (just so this doesn't start a war of words).
15th January 2010, 06:21
N.O.T

Cool he can join the HAS BEEN club now....it has a lot of memebrs you know
15th January 2010, 06:33
grugsticles

Question: In regards to engine mapping, does anyone know for sure if a rally team such as PSWRT actually has access to edit their own engine mappings on their own dyno or are they only allowed to receive engine maps from the manufacturer to use?
I assume WRCars use something similar to a top of the line Motec ECU for engine control. Such units are very powerful in what they can control.
So whats to stop a private team spending testing days on a dyno to get the most out of their engine package.
15th January 2010, 11:09
Gard

Quote:

Originally Posted by grugsticles

Question: In regards to engine mapping, does anyone know for sure if a rally team such as PSWRT actually has access to edit their own engine mappings on their own dyno or are they only allowed to receive engine maps from the manufacturer to use?
I assume WRCars use something similar to a top of the line Motec ECU for engine control. Such units are very powerful in what they can control.
So whats to stop a private team spending testing days on a dyno to get the most out of their engine package.

€ and time. Citroen has thousands of hours in all sorts of climates, worth of data and experience

You will not get competitive mappings from a dyno. You get a engine that start and run clean in that enviroment.
15th January 2010, 11:15
Gard

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Cool he can join the HAS BEEN club now....it has a lot of memebrs you know

He will also be the first to take Loeb down again :eek: You don't seriously think Loeb will beat Petter with equal machinery :D
15th January 2010, 11:29
N.O.T

of course not !!! Thank god Solberg drives the undertuned xsara and the championship has some interest....
15th January 2010, 11:41
Gard

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

of course not !!! Thank god Solberg drives the undertuned xsara and the championship has some interest....

Finally, we agree...
15th January 2010, 15:07
grugsticles

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gard

€ and time. Citroen has thousands of hours in all sorts of climates, worth of data and experience

You will not get competitive mappings from a dyno. You get a engine that start and run clean in that enviroment.

I can understand that the factory tune for each event is very specific, but in the real world would it equate to more than 10 bhp difference between the highly specific factory map and the privately tuned equivalent?
I refuse to believe that 10bhp is the cause of seeing 1 car minutes faster then another over a few hours of competition. There must be more to it.
15th January 2010, 15:18
JFL

0,2 sec pr km turns out to be alot in the end of a rally. Over 1 minute in NORF..
15th January 2010, 15:29
Viking

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Originally Posted by JFL

0,2 sec pr km turns out to be alot in the end of a rally. Over 1 minute in NORF..

0,2 should be 1 minute in most rallies, since min distance for wrc rally is 300 km ;) but you will, even these days, wery often be on the podium if you are 1min behind the winner.
17th January 2010, 09:21
rv65

Loeb says the Citroen has pretty much frozen the C4 WRC's development but they might do a few minor tweaks to it.
17th January 2010, 10:45
eppel

Differences

Loeb has a better transmission than even Sordo I think. Petter will never get that.
17th January 2010, 11:17
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by eppel

Loeb has a better transmission than even Sordo I think. Petter will never get that.

lol
17th January 2010, 11:18
bluuford

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Originally Posted by rallyfan2003

Loeb says the Citroen has pretty much frozen the C4 WRC's development but they might do a few minor tweaks to it.

They are not allowed to homologate new parts. development of WRcars is completely finished by now. They can only play with the settings.
17th January 2010, 11:19
Tomi

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Originally Posted by rallyfan2003

Loeb says the Citroen has pretty much frozen the C4 WRC's development but they might do a few minor tweaks to it.

same situation at ford too.
20th January 2010, 09:47
Viking

Petter gets Citroën (Norway) backing :up:

http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en
20th January 2010, 10:35
6789

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Originally Posted by Viking

Petter gets Citroën (Norway) backing :up:

http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en

Awesome, looks like Petter will do a full season!! Go Petter, look out Mikko And Seb :)
20th January 2010, 11:06
Tom206wrc

Very interesting that Citroën Norway has become Petter's sponsor and that he bought two C4s !!!! :)
20th January 2010, 11:06
grugsticles

I for one am keen to see just how much Petter pushes Ford's and Citreon's number 1 drivers.
Maybe this season, on selected events, there will be a handful drivers with a REAL chance of winning?!?!?
20th January 2010, 13:39
Barreis

:)
22nd January 2010, 11:19
eppel

Petter testing C4!!!

http://www.pettersolberg.com/html/wp...2-113006-1.jpg

http://www.pettersolberg.com/html/wp...2-104506-1.jpg
22nd January 2010, 12:01
bluuford

I think if FIA wants to reduce the costs drastically they should introduce new rule: rear bumper for the rally cars driving on winter rally is optional :-)
22nd January 2010, 16:38
Langdale Forest

That's a bit pointless.
22nd January 2010, 16:53
Sulland

LF: I think it was meant as a big joke !

Where is your UK sense of humor ? :p
22nd January 2010, 17:30
Langdale Forest

It's not in Norway, that's for sure!
22nd January 2010, 17:39
pettersolberg29

Those pictures any hint of a new livery? Looks like a red bumper and black first half of the car. Could just be the test livery.

p.s. Sulland - most of us in the UK still have our sense of humour!
22nd January 2010, 22:43
Micke_VOC

Videos from Petter testing the C4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Y-W4jz9PE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agP10oODOfo
23rd January 2010, 01:52
L5->R5/CR

Quote:

Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Those pictures any hint of a new livery? Looks like a red bumper and black first half of the car. Could just be the test livery.

p.s. Sulland - most of us in the UK still have our sense of humour!

Could also be that the car, since Petter allegedly has now 2 C4s, came in red and hasn't been fully repainted...

It would stand to reason that the cars provided to him by Citroen Sport were at one point largely or entirely red.

Then again, it could be part of the Citroen Norway sponsorship...
23rd January 2010, 09:24
Francis44

Quote:

Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Those pictures any hint of a new livery? Looks like a red bumper and black first half of the car. Could just be the test livery.

p.s. Sulland - most of us in the UK still have our sense of humour!

New Sponsor so I guess the livery will have some changes if not completely new.
23rd January 2010, 12:13
Viking

Petter doing roadside service in rally Finnskogsvalsen

http://www.pettersolberg.com/html/wp...3-121507-1.jpg

http://www.pettersolberg.com
23rd January 2010, 12:52
pettersolberg29

Is there a way to follow the rally today?
23rd January 2010, 13:15
swordsman

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Is there a way to follow the rally today?

Only if you speak Swedish I'm afraid... http://www.radiofryksdalen.se has rally radio.
I just tuned in and will try to give some reports on my twitter (http://www.twitter.com/maxattackblog). Right now they're just talking bull on the radio, though :D

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