Ferrari/McLaren Espionage Story [merged]

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6th July 2007, 19:59
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by eu

And JT knew about this but didn´t find it important to share the news with world and clear a bit the doubts that fell unfairly upon McLaren...

.... and I think it was MrPonx, who loves McLaren, that said something about Ferrari officials declaring they can see a link between McLaren´s good form and the stolen documents...

... Fry also said he announced JT immediately about his meeting with Stepney and Coughlam... and what news do we have after that... Of course... that they are suspecting another McLaren employee... nothing about Fry
6th July 2007, 20:18
ioan

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Originally Posted by eu

.... and I think it was MrPonx, who loves McLaren, that said something about Ferrari officials declaring they can see a link between McLaren´s good form and the stolen documents...

... Fry also said he announced JT immediately about his meeting with Stepney and Coughlam... and what news do we have after that... Of course... that they are suspecting another McLaren employee... nothing about Fry

Are you that McLaren employee??? :p :
6th July 2007, 21:29
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

this thought went through my mind when Mike was implicated.

a team starting with HO, ending in DA and with a N in the name may be looking to establish a strong design team with proven track record. a team, we should bear in mind, with a proven ferrari driver and the oft heralded Button only need a car capable of challenging to potentially upset many an apple cart.

the kudos of being the men that quit the best 2 teams to turn around the failing Honda and achieve success would put them in the most coverted position in their field.

ive got a funny feeling in my trouser department that this is the most logical reason behind this debarcle. however, it must be said that this is speculation in its purest form and just another possible angle to consider. we all still wait for that most elusive of prizes, PROOF!!

I should have been a criminal lawyer - my mind works one step ahead of these guys.
6th July 2007, 22:27
f1rocks

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

I should have been a criminal lawyer - my mind works one step ahead of these guys.

Actually when you said this earlier I wasnt sure if that is the case. But now it seems like what you stated earlier might very well be the case. I gotta give you that...Lets wait and see what unfolds the next 2 days after the GP.

I think they want the weekend to go on as normal and after that the real fireworks will commence...We fans are entitled to know the truth whatever be the case..
6th July 2007, 22:27
Big Ben

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Originally Posted by ioan

Are you that McLaren employee??? :p :

Can´t say I am but I´ve unveiled my identity on another thread... I´m Michael Schumacher.
7th July 2007, 01:44
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by f1rocks

Actually when you said this earlier I wasnt sure if that is the case. But now it seems like what you stated earlier might very well be the case. I gotta give you that...Lets wait and see what unfolds the next 2 days after the GP.

I think they want the weekend to go on as normal and after that the real fireworks will commence...We fans are entitled to know the truth whatever be the case..

Looking at it logically, I just couldn't see how any Ferrari plans would benefit a manufacturer who had possibly the fastest car on the track. Not this year's car anyway as a re-design would take at least 8 months.

BUT for a team which has a car which runs like shyte, it makes perfect sense to try to get hands on a couple of decent designs and start on next year's car.

However, it does seem that Nick Fry is a decent guy and wouldn't have a BAR of it. But with the design of the current Ferrari and the top designer from McLaren, a very attractive proposition appears for a team which doesn't have a decent car.

Just refer to me as Valve Bounce QC in future; thanks in advance.
7th July 2007, 04:18
Hawkmoon

If Stepney and Coughlan were trying to land a job at Honda, why did Stepney give the Ferrari data to Coughlan? Both Coughlan and Stepney met with Fry so wouldn't it have been more prudent for them to each take their own teams data to the meeting rather than taking the risk of giving the Ferrari stuff to Coughlan? This is weird!

As it turns out, Coughlan figures it's OK to hand a 500 page document stamped "Confidential: Property of Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro" to a clerk at a copy store and ask him to whip up a couple of copies. That's not only weird, it's idiotic!

I don't think the makers of the next James Bond film will be asking either Stepney or Coughlan for tips on how to steal confidential data. :rolleyes:
7th July 2007, 17:00
ArrowsFA1

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Originally Posted by Robinho

...it seems to make a lot more sense that Stepney and Coughlan planned to high tail it to Honda with a folder full of successful information to create a hybrid of the Ferrari and McLaren...

It does seem increasingly likely that this is what was going on - two individuals planning their future elsewhere.

I wonder if those who immediately implicated, and accused, McLaren of wrong doing have changed their minds yet?
7th July 2007, 17:39
TMorel

Hawkmoon - the makers of James Bond might not be knocking on Coughlan and Stepney's doors but I can imagine the writers of the next Mr.Bean movie taking an interest ;)
7th July 2007, 18:06
DonnieDarco

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Originally Posted by TMorel

Hawkmoon - the makers of James Bond might not be knocking on Coughlan and Stepney's doors but I can imagine the writers of the next Mr.Bean movie taking an interest ;)

Its funny you should say that, because I've been speculating on how we might eventually find out that Ross Brawn and his white cat are the masterminds of the whole dastardly plan ;) :D

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