TOYOTA PRESIDENT AKIO TOYODA WAS A STUDIO GUEST DURING COVERAGE OF RALLYE MONTE-CARLO ON J SPORTS NETWORK IN JAPAN LAST WEEKEND.
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TOYOTA PRESIDENT AKIO TOYODA WAS A STUDIO GUEST DURING COVERAGE OF RALLYE MONTE-CARLO ON J SPORTS NETWORK IN JAPAN LAST WEEKEND.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january- ... 2-12-.html
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Originally Posted by bluuford
Its not that I underestimate the money they give, and their pound or euro is as good as anyone elses to the teams, to me it is more a reflection of the publicity value of WRC, the oil and tyre companies get benefits other ways, that is why I used the term(which I know isnt perfect) real sponsors, being companies that wanted to use the sport for the exposure it brings
Name a level of motorsport where such deals are not the norm with manufacturer teams?
The Red Bull deal with VW (across many platforms) is based in part around the huge number of cars that RB buy from VW around the world for staff cars (separate to the promotional cars - some of which are Mini), and family connections between Piech and Mateschitz.
Business 2 Business deals are the grease on the motorsport world. I'm not sure you can single out WRC as some sort of extreme anomaly.
Sponsors of manufacturer programmes NEVER pay anything near the full rate that such real estate should deserve based on the total spend of the car company.
Lotus / Renault - Total and a raft of Genii companies
Mercedes - Petronas
McLaren - Mercedes - Mobil 1
Caterham - GE
BMW WTCC - Crowne Plaza
Red Bull RAcing - Rausch
Audi - Bosch
Sponsors of manufacturer programmes NEVER pay anything near the full rate that such real estate should deserve based on the total spend of the car company.
M-Sport is the only one straying from this model, but I maintain that I think we'll see Qatar back on the car sooner rather than later.
This is what is written on the link:Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
"Luis claimed Ford were on the verge of imminently returning to WRC with M-Sport and Toyota were close to announcing their return to top-flight world rallying."
This is what Moya exactly said:
"There is a strong rumour that Toyota will be back on the WRC" & "It seems that Ford will return as a factory team".
Nothing new under the sun on these subjects, he said what most of people have been saying for a while.
About the second part, he claimed exactly that: "Citroën Racing had offered Elfyn Evans a full programme of drives for 2014 and 2015 during the post-2013 merry-go-round" (a Ford's member told it to him). Moya continued saying that Elfyn went to speak to Malcolm, who didn't have other option than to contract him. I'm sure that Luis didn't invent this story. I'm sure that Evans is a good poker player too :D .
Somw say that Ford has spent the same amount of money all these years on WRC program, just that the status of an "official" team was changed to non official, because it looks better when the company is in financial trouble
I' would say this is likely the case or near the case anyway. Also Gerard Quinn not Tweeting about travelling to Cockermouth etc is another sign of it being unofficial.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
[quote=the sniper]I don't know if they're that hard to believe. Toyota Motorsport have already said that they'll be building a Yaris WRC car this year, with a Toyota spokesman saying it was "reasonable" to say that its WRC return would go ahead. (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111749)Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan":3o9j1nle]To any Spanish speaking member, is there any truth in that? A bit hard to believe all these...
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On Ford, surely it'd explain a lot. The new look Fiesta is apparently coming for Portugal. If Ford aren't getting back involved, personally I can't see why M Sport would have bothered developing and spending money on facelifting their car. Surely the only reason to do so is to keep the WRC car relevant to the Fiesta on sale in the showrooms, but what do M Sport gain from that? Yes it'll mean it'll look like the R5 spec Fiesta, but surely people buying R5 Fiesta off M Sport aren't bothered that it looks like its WRC brother?!
Ford money coming back on board would also explain Malcolm's driver choice, i.e. being able to pick two drivers who seem to be bringing little or no money to the team. Plus, look at the team's livery, it's so Ford-ish!
If anything, these rumours are too easy to make up and believe given what has been said by Toyota and the circumstances that can be seen at M Sport. We'll see what happens, but it won't surprise me if both do come back in the near future.[/quote:3o9j1nle]
Ford Fiesta's facelift was tested some years ago, definitely there's some pics around forums and websites. Malcolm Wilson kept it in the garage, but I think it's a move to "persuade" Ford Europe to come back again, maybe with a bigger strategy: big amounts of money from both Ford Europe and Qatar (reaching Hyundai's budget at least). As for EcoBoost stickers, it's just a support in developing and fine-tuning the engine. A bit more than a technical help...
That's quite something! I wonder what he had to say?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Just a random thought, but to me the wording and content of that article is a bit odd, in that it seems to be more of a promotional piece for J Sports than a news article covering what happened. It makes me wonder, is this article for our benefit, or in light of this article on Autosport: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112248 , is it actually for the benefit of the existing manufactures?
Is that 'article' Red Bull/WRC Promoter telling him what they've got in place in Japan? ;) I am I just reading way too much into it? :laugh:Quote:
Volkswagen's Jost Capito admitted to further frustrations over promotion.
"It's very difficult," he said. "We asked for the list of [television] broadcasters for this year and we didn't get any answer except for the UK and we know what is happening in Germany because we did it ourselves.
Well, they know how to make themselves comfortable... :bandit: