Team orders at Ferrari

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Whatever controversaties have followed Alonso round like a bad smell, I've always had the utmost respect for his driving. Now I'm afraid the evidence is overwhelming that he cannot handle having a fast team mate, and that he'll cry like a baby unless he gets his own way. If he was truly quicker today he should have overtaken Massa fair and square.

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Asbolutely. :up:

A $100'000 fine

Considering their huge budget, that is one very lenient punishment. Might keep them out of cappuccino's for a day

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

That wasn't even in the same part of the race. Those were during Alonso's first attempts at overtaking, after which he cried like a b*tch. Then, Massa opened up a 3 second lead, hopefully you saw that.

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That's one occasion where I saw Alonso being held up. Then, briefly, the gap went to 3.4 seconds.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

Hmm, I wonder why this impending "danger" of Vettel never really bothered Massa after he was "overtaken" by Alonso. :confused: I mean since Massa was slower than Alonso and holding him up, Vettel should have made quick work of Massa, don't you think? But he didn't even come close. :(

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Hindsight is a fine thing.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

So, is it that you're buying the crap Ferrari is selling, or is it the Alonso poster on your wall, OR is this a case of beer goggles? :)

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No, I'm not buying the whinging crap here about big bad Alonso or big bad Ferrari either though.
I don't have any Alonso posters.
Haven't worn beer goggles since I was last with markabilly's missus
:dozey:

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Originally Posted by ojciec dyrektor

Sorry Ioan, but I'm not You. So simply grow up and stop judge me.

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No you are not me as I support Massa and you support Kubica.
And I am not taking ceahpshots at you, so yeah we are very different.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

If he was truly that much quicker today he should have overtaken Massa fair and square.

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yep :up:
Or, "possibly" done a Vettel on him :laugh:

Ferrari say they won't appeal the fine "in the interests of the sport". How very noble of them.

Rob made the whole mess obvious for the all people to understand, he did it deliberatley, he like Felipe was forced.

Then its likely that this words will cost ferrari a couple of hundred millions, yes I belive so. They will loose any chance of WDC or WCC now and the WMSC will come down very very hard on them.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

No, I'm not buying the whinging crap here about big bad Alonso or big bad Ferrari either though.

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Maybe not big bad Alonso, but at least big bad Ferrari? Both Massa and Alonso had a mathematical chance at winning the championship with 8 races to go. This wasn't needed today.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

Haven't worn beer goggles since I was last with markabilly's missus
:dozey:

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:laugh:

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Originally Posted by henners88

Well with exception to Hamilton and Raikkonen they all benefitted from team orders when team orders were legal and did not break the regulations. The rules were changed to stop this very action and it was ignored today. Hamilton has not had team orders so blantantly executed on track and at the half way stage in the season where everything is to play for. You're right that they all have dirty moves whether that be on track or off on their records, but you must agree Alonso's list of controversy is making a firm leap for the lead.. ;)

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Blantantly or not it makes no difference. If You have rules You have to everybody treat equally. If McLaren wasn't punished then there's no ground to punish Ferrari.

And, as I said, Ferrari didn't ask Massa to give away his position to Alonso. I know that is unfair, but it's the result of stupid rules.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

That's one occasion where I saw Alonso being held up. Then, briefly, the gap went to 3.4 seconds.


Hindsight is a fine thing.

I don't have any Alonso posters.
Haven't worn beer goggles since I was last with markabilly's missus
:dozey:

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Come on, fess up, we all know you be a closet Freddie fanboy, that is clear from your posts of freddie and ferrari did no wrong

as to hindsight, depends on whose hind as to if it be a fine thing....
for example with your missus, one can never tell if it is foresight or hindsight you be looking at, assuming you got 25 cents and the time to wait in the long line :dozey:

BTW, is there some exception of where the car in front is clearly holding up the other...although that would not appear to be the case here.

Anyway, imagine the absolute cross-eyed fit that ole webber would have thrown if told to move over.....worse than silverstone and far worse than donkey jote's fit, when he found out he left his balls with my missus...not her fault, she thought they were fleas and squashed them before he came crawling back for them