Singapore 2008: Briatore and Symmonds resign

This little snippet;

Radio transcripts of the race, which have been obtained by the FIA, show that director of engineering Symonds did not share the concerns of fellow team members about making such an early stop – telling the team: "No, no, it's going to be alright."

From this story - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78451 - is most concerning.

"No, no, it's going to be alright."

That could be the sentence that hangs them out to dry. Why not "it's a calculated risk" or "we're predicting a safety car"? Symonds seems pretty certain that the outcome is guaranteed. I'm starting to wonder if him and Flav and were in any way involved in Derren Brown's lottery "predictions" :p

Why? Did they use split screens and pre recorded segments too?!?!

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

"No, no, it's going to be alright."

That could be the sentence that hangs them out to dry. Why not "it's a calculated risk" or "we're predicting a safety car"? Symonds seems pretty certain that the outcome is guaranteed. I'm starting to wonder if him and Flav and were in any way involved in Derren Brown's lottery "predictions" :p

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Apologies for thread creep, but...

If that guy Brown can predict the lottery, why does he not win every draw?

Same for every clairvoyant etc......

;)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Apologies for thread creep, but...

If that guy Brown can predict the lottery, why does he not win every draw?

Same for every clairvoyant etc......

;)

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I knew you were going to say that.... :p

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

I knew you were going to say that.... :p

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Groan.....

:rotflmao:

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Originally Posted by ioan

Flav said such idea was never talked about.
Symonds says that it was Piquet's idea.
Their contradictory stories are already more than enough to question the integrity of their words.
When you add the strange Alonso strategy, and I doubt it was Piquet who decided Alonso's furl load for the race day, it's obvious that the liar isn't Jr.

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If it weren't Jr. then it must be that mechanic who can not tighten those wheels.....where is Dave Ryan when you need him? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by markabilly

If it weren't Jr. then it must be that mechanic who can not tighten those wheels.....where is Dave Ryan when you need him? :rolleyes:

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Good point and I think that the one who will lose out in this situation will be Dave Ryan's equivalent, Pat Symonds.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Good point and I think that the one who will lose out in this situation will be Dave Ryan's equivalent, Pat Symonds.

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but the real question may not be what the FIA will do as to making pat walk the plank, but if this is a criminal violation of Singapore law......those folks seem to love to throw necktie parties for spitting on the sidewalk, :eek:

so i wonder if there could be any match fixing charges, esp. if anyone bet any money..... :confused:

mind you, just idle speculation, because at first right after the crash, for the first 5 seconds afterwards, i thought?????

then I thought, well no way, just coincidences......even with all this stuff of the last few days, I still would say NO WAY...but now from what I have seen in the last 24 hours, the "did they do it discussion" no longer has any relevance.....my advice is if this constitutes a possible crime in Singapore, them three boys need to stay out of that country and any country with extradition treaties.......

Besides, Flav's own statements make him out to be a liar compared to Pat and the other facts as you point out.....

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Originally Posted by ioan

Flav said such idea was never talked about.
Symonds says that it was Piquet's idea.
Their contradictory stories are already more than enough to question the integrity of their words.
When you add the strange Alonso strategy, and I doubt it was Piquet who decided Alonso's furl load for the race day, it's obvious that the liar isn't Jr.

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It puzzles me why Symonds would admit that the matter was discussed. If Flavio & co did it, they should deny that discussions took place and it would just be their word against Piquet. I almost wish they would do that cause I don't want to see Renault get out of F1. If you have a strategy where driver crashes intentionally, lying about it is no big deal after that.