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So you've changed the angle now? Earlier you were suggesting that nobody on any Commission had achieved success in any endeavour ... now it's just WRC? Original argument not holding water? Neither will this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
All your post really does is to reinforce what a horrible little tosser you really are and how little you know about anything of which you write.
What about Todt's development of the 205 for Peugeot before selling out to F1? If you want to call the Audi a spaceship of the time you can't dismiss the guy who supervised the development of a trans-dimensional warp.
Come to think of it, Dave Richards was a pretty successful co-driver, wasn't he? Maybe he should be in charge. ;)
Since i am posting in the WRC section, and since the discussion was about the WRC TV rights i was reffering to the WRC committee from the start...not committees in general...i do not care about other sports that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
so can you please note a member of the WRC committee that had success in the sport or was something more than mediocrity at best ??
All these middle aged underachievers with wasted lives just want to prove themselves from a different post since they failed at anything they did... so at their end of their careers i doubt they will offer something more than failures...
Successful drivers/team managers ects took all the satisfaction at being the best in their field... they have nothing to prove anymore (which is a pity since they could really help the sport)
Little sick dogs who failed at what they tried in their youth want to revenge the sport and battle with their inferiority complexes all the time... but the results are always the same...once a loser, always one.
Successful co-driver !!! LOL !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Co-drivers are good guys but they do nothing special, it is quite easy to find a good co-driver in contrast to a good driver...
You seem keen to 'reverse questions', so here's one for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
How many members of the current WRC Commission can you name?
You've mentioned Todt - well, he's not a member. You mentioned MM, well done to you.
How many can you come up with?
Mouton, apart from being an iconic driver from rallying's hayday, she has a width experience on organisational level from her ROC years, let alone her inside knowledge of WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Todt was actually a strong personality in his co-driver years, hence his many partnerships with a variety of succesful drivers. After that, he was the mastermind of the 205 T16 project. This pretty much helped Peugeot from going bankrupt.
These assumptions of yours are anything but objective, it's sounds like you just don't like them.
I reckon the most successful female rally driver ever and anyone else who can finish second in the championship(admittedly with the best car) is not a nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I agree with your comments on the fat one.
I don't disagree with your view, but do you have a similarly positive view of Fidel Castro merely on the grounds that he was in power for a long time?Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
On another matter, we seem to have gone from a situation where there was too much moderation of the rally forum to one where a member calls another a 'horrible little ******' without sanction, and said other member fills the thread with the usual nonsense, again without action being taken.
The important ones are the FIA head which is Todt and Mouton who is part of the WRC commision...by heart i cannot name any others... does it matter ??? whoever they are they are definately not doing their job properly...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
a few weeks back they said that TV deal was under imminent announcement...then they asked from the organisers to cover the fee...
Of course i do not like them... do you ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
BDunnell, no I don't have a view on Castro. The comment was reactionary to a suggestion "the WRC has no future" despite it's resilience throughout the ebbs and flows of the past 33 years. No wider political inference was implied.
I agree with your comments re moderators. To be honest, a certain 'awakening' was the motivation behind my descriptive. That and the fact that I couldn't think of a more accurate one.
By the way, thanks for your comments on the other thread. I've simply lacked the time to give adequate thought to a reply as yet, but will do so.
So, in other words, you are just a person who has no idea what he is talking about in any way, shape or form, but feels that everyone else in the world is entitled to your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You're coming across as a rabid lunatic. I find it difficult to imagine you are truly that ignorant to the point that you do not acknowledge Todt's successes as Director of Peugeot sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I can only assume you are speaking from experience.Quote:
But unfortunately once you are an underachiever in your 30s and 40s whch are your most creative years, you are not going to be anything more than that in your 60s apart from an uglier underachiever.
The power of mediocre people united can achieve some great things and event shadow those with a voice of reason...
have a nice day and continue beliving that the reason WRC was on the decline all these years was because of Loeb...the fat midget needs your support...it was under his management that the WRC is without a promoter after its start...and do not expect any serious manufacturer to commit and waste their money without any serious TV deal...
as for his peugeot days... indeed was a very successful team manager... after all being a puppet is a very difficult job.
Whether you like Todt or not, you can't dispute his success. Turned around the fortunes of Peugeot-Talbot as it was known; winning WRC, WSC and Le Mans. Then went to Ferrari who were a shambles...and turned them into a winning machine, by hiring Brawn/Byrne/Schumacher...
I haven't been overly impressed by his handling of the current mess, but hope he has something which he is keeping quiet. Which is one concern, the FiA have been very quiet, hence nobody seems to know what is going on.
I wonder which three events have signed up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
On topic again; WRC commission; have they achieved any success? Have they done progress to the WRC? No,no, no!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I understand why N.O.T. says like he does, maybe in his own way of doing it, but still...
Once again, the FIA have come off pretty badly in all of this. And I think what has hurt them - as usual - is a lack of transparecny.
If I was running the WRC commission, I would probably only offer the existing events a one-year contract. But I'd also be up-front about why I was doing it. The WRC is in a difficult situation right now, and it needs stability. I would offer a one-year contract on the basis that a new promoter would have to be found, with the promise of a lengthier contract at the end of 2013 if the teams and events were happy with the new promoter.
As an enthusiast, I don't care about transparency so long as the end result is something I want to see. At the moment, there's no way I'd say that about the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
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Originally Posted by BDunnell
I think there's a lot of people like you. I'm still followiing it, but I'm finding it hard to find real enthusiasm for it. Other Motorsport series are on the way up and are looking to make progress. WRC seems completely out of touch.
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I agree but disagree. I love this sport with a passion! I don't follow another sport. Rally is me. I talk rally and people know I love it. But last 2 years.... depending on what's going on... I sometimes get bored... but there have been some challenges in the rallies with Loeb and other drivers... I'm following but then I don't have it in me to follow. It's hard but I love Rally!Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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I dont think Loeb is going to take the challenge LOL. Plus dosen't this event colide with Rally Finland?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
Nope, the rally cross-thingy takes place on the 1st July.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
And Loeb isn't the best in rally cross, at least he doesn't have any titles in that sport.
Colin McRae managed to get some publicity and cash from appearing in the XGames though I doubt Loeb would play the fool the way Colin did, nor may he need the publicity. If it's all through Red Bull, though, I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
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Originally Posted by Red bull
Funny boy now becomes a clown...
The boy should stop smoking that stuff.
Loeb should challenge Pastrami to finish in the top half of the field in a WRC rally---
Since when does that brain damaged underaged boy has the right to challenge Loeb ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
Pastrana is not even worthy to shine Loebs shoes...
he should stick to those motocross jumping to entertain the retarded uneducated 15 year old american kids...
Gronholm disagrees with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
loeb takes the challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by red bull
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
Travis Pastrana is hyping his event, its what Americans do, and it works for them in their own country. Since when do you havve the right to call Mr Pastrana brain damaged etc? You are the most prolific troll I have ever came across on the forums I use and if anyone ever says things like this about you you cry to the mods and report the posts. If you cant take it dont give it kid
This. It's just hype, and its not just for XGames. He's trying to get a big name over in the states so that more American eyes begin to look at this wonderful sport, whether it be rallycross or stage. They see they cars, they go to youtube, fans are born. How exactly is that a bad thing? USA is a HUGE untapped market for this sport, and people outside the states just hate; ironically calling American's arrogant, stupid.... blah blah blah. Look in a ****ing mirror.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
Also, TP is FAR from brain damaged. He has a super high IQ, graduated from HS at 16, WHILE making millions throwing his bike around as one of the elite MX riders in the world. The kid is always smiles and hasn't had to hold a real job in his life. He's the greatest spokesman a sponsor could ask for.
Is loeb a better driver? NO ****. Is TP a bad driver? Drink a glass of objectivity and get back to us.
TP wakes up in the morning and pisses excellence.
Quite useless info actually. First because IQ tests really don't show how smart someone is. Secondly, education systems differ in countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gherid_lacksGPS
But this is getting Offtopic.
Much rather have seen Loeb out this weekend at Le Mans, than doing X-Games.....
Agreed but I wasn't referring to IQ within the context of a quantitative test, but simply making a point that he is quite intelligent. And attacking someones intelligence with blatant prejudices, primarily based on ignorant perceptions of their culture/country, is bigotry at its finest. Always find it ironic when someone slams an individuals intelligence, bit of a paradox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Looking forward to seeing Loeb at X. Loeb, Marcus, Tanner will be great. It will definitely get many people in the States to take notice and begin following rally, at least in some form.
Edit: Also, all of you know you're going to watch it, lol. ^_^
First of all I'm neither European nor American, so you could say that I'm unbiased.
Now, why do you guys resent the GRC so much? Why is "European Rallycross = good; American Rallycross = bad"? Most of the accusations towards the GRC seem to be directed at the lack of talent of the drivers in the GRC. Who exactly are the European Rallycross Master Legend Champions? You accuse Travis Pastrana of "hyping" the series AS IF that's a bad thing. Newsflash: hype is what draws public interest to the sport. It's what attracts sponsors, teams and drivers. If the whole body of FIA managed to create half the hype that Pastrana manages to create for the GRC, then maybe the WRC wouldn't be slowly fading into insignificance... isn't the lack of adequate promotion what you guys are ALWAYS complaining about anyway? I find it refreshing to see the Americans actually putting in some effort to make their series successful. It's more than we can say about FIA towards the WRC.
I am truly laughing my ass off at the comments such as "Loeb would never play the fool like McRae did". Who's the fool now? Gronholm seems to recognize the potential in the series, and now apparently so does Loeb. I personally will be counting the days until I can see Gronholm and Loeb going head to head again. And I will be rooting for Gronholm :)
You guys sound like a bunch of old ladies who are way past their prime and never managed to find a man to love, and who are now all bitter and resentful towards younger women who are falling in love for the first time. Give me a ****ing break.