Slowson/ Tell me whatīs different with the Warmbold way. Isnīt he an insider as the others? Please, be real in your comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
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Slowson/ Tell me whatīs different with the Warmbold way. Isnīt he an insider as the others? Please, be real in your comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
So when they participate on this forum, should we believe in them or just ignore? I prefere the first.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
you should stop confusing and start distinguishing between the words "insight" and "point of view" ...
0,1%? You know all participants on this forum and can judge all relevance in all comments? I donīt think so. Unless you are God.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
My comments was because you very much simplifying certain comments and raise others.
So people here want an insight but cannot be happy with what information they are given. I just don't understand. Appreciate that someone or people come here and read the forums, read what members write, read what the fans really have to say. There are more people then you think who come and read the threads but don't necessarily interact with fans! The ones who do are the good guys who want to give us a bit more info. But then again, they can always hide behind their keyboards and NO one will know who they are! Oh hello! :)
One reason might be that why they are not here is because they have a lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
The main reason is simple... and of course i am the only smart person to notice it... no need to be upset... every mind has its limits.
When you are doing something for a living you prefer to spend your free time away from it since it already is a big part of your daily life... if a subject is part of every moment in your 24 hour plan you end up in a mental house...which is a nice place to be for a day or two but then it might be frustrating...
For the majority of us this place is the way to relax... we do not lose anything from the sport and we do not gain either... we make comments and argue over other peoples activities and it is a way to relax from our daily jobs/studies/problems... some take things a bit more seriously and get a bit upset but for that the answer lies in the first sentence of this post.
And again you should notice that most people who are inside the sport and post here they do not offer an insight... they offer their personal point of view on things..and this is hardly an insight.
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I think the WRC-commission should resign. Maybe also Mr Todt. He doesnīt seem to have the abiltiy to have management over WRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
WRC commission sucks.
I don't understand Todt. Of course, I was delighted that his approach was so different from that of his predecessor — the lack of constant outbursts over any motorsport matter under the sun, his quieter 'behind-the-scenes' approach, his definite enthusiasm for the WRC in its more traditional form, and so on. But the fact remains that one can only judge from results, and the WRC has gone further downhill under his stewardship of the FIA. It's a real shame, and I don't know what to make of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
It's strange - I do wonder what is going on. When elected, Jean Todt made it clear rescuing the WRC was a primary concern. We know he's keen for it to return to it's 'Endurance roots' - whereas the current Manufacturers want to keep the status quo.
Forgive me, but is it possible he's trying to run it down and start again with his 'blueprint'. And does he have other Manufacturers lined up?? It just seems almost bizarre the way the WRC is being run/ or not being run.
However, JT has resurrected a World Championship for Sportscars - so I still think he's in credit, but that's no use to what remains of the WRC fans.
First we had DR now a banker from Finland, (Mahonen) and I did say banker :-)
Well, it might be, if we're into such theories. The trouble is that if it does get run completely down, what will there be to pick up in terms of public and media interest in the sport? Its profile will be shot to bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Wonder why NORF did not sign this contract if this was Mahonen's idea ...Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
One of the problems of the FIA WRC commisions is that all the failures of the sport want to be in them because they never managed to do anything substantial while they were competing...
and usually failures fail at everything they do...
some times nature saves the sport from these people like a few years back... but most of the time they survive and destroy the sport...
If WRC wants a future it needs to leave the FIA.
when you see things black and white is easier to distinguish the bad from the good...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Seeing things in black and white is not, despite what you might think, a good character trait. 'Bad' and 'good' are very simplistic concepts.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
it makes decisions easier though...Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
When someone makes business with loses, must go and WRC leadership didn't do good this year.
But it might not make them good.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
No, they mustn't automatically 'go'. But big changes need to happen. I wonder whether they are hoping the arrival of VW will spur a rise in interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
You are dividing words. NOT is right. This hasbeen gone so long that everyone can see with their own eyes that FIA has failed ten times around.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
manfred stohl will start in new zealand with a fiesta wrc.
looks like Photoshop to me
I wonder N.O.T whether you can update us please with the names of the WRC Commission members and their achievements, or failings, in motorsport and other endeavours. Ought to be interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Your last comment of the post is particularly insightful given that we have enjoyed 33 years of what we know as the WRC, all under FIA control.
Oh and, whilst like you I prefer to see official confirmation from the factories involved rather than speculate on rumour, we can look forward to 2013 with Citroen, Ford, VW, part time Mini, a very heavily rumoured Hyundai, and some hints of a Toyota return and/or a Proton step up sometime in the future to keep us hopeful. Dreadful people that FIA.
My guess was right! Salo was already testing...Quote:
Juha Salo will drive Super 2000 car in Rally Finland and he will aim for the SWRC points. The car will be published 15th June, but it will be works team. It must be Proton, because the NORF is in their program and there is no sense to send Alister McRae to compete in Finland...
Proton S2000 Test - Sweet Lamb [HD] - YouTube
let me reverse the question and ask you to enlighten me on the successes the WRC commision members had in the sport...Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
As for the entries of all the rumoured and other manufacturers if there is no exposure i can see them turns like Seat/Hyundai/Suzuki very very soon....
Car manufacturers are not entering the sport because they are romantic gilrs who like sunsets...they enter the sport because the want to make money out of it by using it as advertising... now would you prepare a commercial if you were usure if it is going to be broadcasted in 100 or 10 million people ??? and would you be ready to dedicate to the product whithout being sure if it is going to get maximum exposure ??
Citroen are posting lots of photos on facebook from 2007 onwards,is it a sign of saying goodbye paving way for Peugeot entrance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I am a former employee of North One Television and spent the last 2 years working on the WRC for the production arm for the company. I haven't read through all the posts on here so I can't say if what I will say will be news to any of you but I thought it best to put across the point of view of someone from the inside and give everyone a better understanding of exactly what happened near the end.
Firstly, around September time, we were told by the powers that be at North One that Roman Antanov had decided he could provide WRC coverage, worldwide, cheaper and more efficient using his own employees. This meant the whole TUPE ordeal started with his company CSI and all was planning to go ahead up until November when he was arrested/made insolvent and the deal was off, with the rights to the rally then to be decided by the FIA. Firstly they were encouraging new bids from anyone that could pick up the pieces and carry on the progress already made, there were 2 parties interested, the first pulled out 5 days before Christmas as the FIA had not responded to any communication from this party and got fed up of being messed around. The second was from a Middle Eastern party and just as everything looked to be in place, just after new year, the FIA decided that they wanted North One Sport/Television to have nothing to do with it anymore as they had become tired of being 'messed about' and with 'nothing stable in place'.
From the inside, I can tell you for a fact that had the FIA decided to go with one of these new bids for global broadcast and promotion, the WRC would be in a much better place than it is now. It was thrown on Eurosport late in the day and they didn't have the resources or funding to take on such a job and since then it has become a complete joke with Nokia backing out last week, it is moving backwards at a rapid pace. Firstly, nobody wants to sponsor an event/manufacturer that isn't being promoted/broadcast on a global scale so eventually more and more sponsors will drop out and because of this, none of the teams will have the funding to race in as many events each year, slowly dropping out. Mini is a prime example of this, Prodrive pretty much jumped straight off the sinking ship one it had been announced.
North One Sport were actually doing an incredible job maintaing the rally as it was, the FIA like to criticise their work as it wasn't making as much money as they would have liked and the WRC will always play second fiddle to F1. WRC doesn't recieve as much coverage not because North One Sport/FIA weren't pushing it in the right directions but simply because it isn't sexy enough like the F1. In my honest opinion, the FIA are entirely to blame for this and only now are they starting to realise what a huge mistake it was to end North One Sport's involvement with the WRC in the way that they did.
The 2 years I spent working on the WRC were the best years I've enjoyed as a professional and I know that nothing will rival it. I hope one day to get back into the same line of work and rejoin the incredible family that is the WRC.
If anyone has any questions that they think I might be able to answer, please don't hesitate to ask and I will try to answer as best I can.
ok thank you...we will get back to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2000
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Originally Posted by tommeke_B
The cameras on the cars themselves were very cheap as they could easily be sacrificed if the car were to roll and the camera break. Most of the top drivers had 2 cameras that would cut between every 2 minutes, so you have a shot from the front wing of the car and then a shot from the roof/bonnet/grill. I think it was about as good as they were going to get. In terms of why certain footage was chosen to be part of the show, the onboards were usually synced with camera positions on the stage, or interesting points, maybe a particular section where a certain driver was fast or where they had lost time. There was also the telemetery option where we demonstrated how much quicker someone was than someone else over a certain section, using WRC stage simulator etc. We did only have split times to go on most of the time so it ws a case of trying to find out why a driver was slow in a certain section. For example, there was some really good audio from Greece last year when Petter got stuck in the dust on an night stage and there was a huge row between Chris Patterson and himself.
I can't tell you how much I've seen on onboards that havent been shown. Jari-Matti getting out of his car between stages in NZ 2 years ago to have a pi$$ whilst the cameras were still rolling. Various photogrpahers and animals being hit but not being able to show them.
http://www.worldrallyblog.com/2012/0...-from-citroen/Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
you didn t answer the question.But ok...Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2000
Sorry N.O.T .... you were the person who made the disparaging remarks. It is entirely your responsibility to validate them with facts. Time to put up or shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Well simple enough...
Mouton was a nobody and was there because she was a woman and she did everything with a car from the space age for the time.
Jean todt was a nobody co-driver and then a sell out to F1...
ok now ?
Have you seen any person with even a remote success story in the WRC to be part of the committee ??
Every nobody who never achieved anything in the sport despite their efforts tried to be famous once more by being part in the WRC committee...
But unfortunately once you are an underachiever in your 30s and 40s whch are your most creative years, you are not going to be anything more than that in your 60s apart from an uglier underachiever.
no problem if WRC committe without world champions , the sport doesn't need rally heroes at managing level...but more peoples who understand the sport, and have business/ managing skillsQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
NOS administration is vis major from FIA point of view - they can not do miracles in 4 months
Nokia left the WRC - not supprising as they close factories and lay off more thousands people, nothing to do with the level of WRC
The bad thing is that FIA already starting to increase the next year fees and try to collect the money from organisers. This create the feeling that they are pessimistic that in short term (for 2013) a promoter and global sponsor will step and we can reach at least the former NOS level (which can not be the final target). It's too early to do that.
My question still the same as was in other thread. What could have been done better or on other way by NOS in the past?Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfan2000