The Ferrari thread !

OK then the last three and a half year Felipe has been a lapdog, perhaps it´s written in his contract.

Next year will be a diffrent matter, for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZoESZe0mCs

Yes, fully alongside! Level, even!

Massa's onboard proves it!




Please Note - Those of a Kimi Disposition, who may suffer from Unable-To-Apportionate-Fault-On-Their-Boy-Syndrome, may wish to look away.

Kimi evidently was.

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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

Didn't quite deter Alonso from calling his team folk idiots over the team radio after the Monza qualifying, Or isn't Alonso an employee, too .

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Check it out Tarski, Alonso followed the instructions of his team in the episode you have related implicitly. He was just pissed off they didn't work very well and expressed his frustration. Massa it appears willfully broke a team order. Do you understand the difference you dumb hick?

I wouldn't bother, Alca.

Don't get yourself banned because of provocation.

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

I wouldn't bother, Alca.

Don't get yourself banned because of provocation.

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Well that's something you have ample experience with vthatever/tamburello/Natalie.S :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

^^^^^ THIS POST HAS BEEN MADE BY DJ_BYTEDISASTER, WHO IS CURRENTLY ON YOUR IGNORE LIST^^^^^

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Felipe , Fernando is faster than you .

Sorry , Mousa , but it's true .
The reds pay this guy million$ to drive for them . That's "drive for them" , in case anybody missed that little portion of my statement .

What he's done here is trip over his pouty lower lip , because he could have shown himself as still fast , but more so loyal , to a team who nursed him back to health and held his position for him .
It was early on in the race , so who really knows how it could have affected the results , both in terms of timing , and in terms of extra tire wear on Alonso's car .

He's just shown , once again , that he will disobey team orders as it suits him .

Is his Ferrari experience worth the risk of experiencing the pout for any potential employers ?

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I completely agree, and had already stated in another thread that I would have preferred if Felipe took the high road and just did as asked. As the race showed, he had nothing to gain by pouting, and everything to lose. Now he has proven both that he is not a team player in this circumstance, and that Alonso was faster.

But depending on his contract specifics, maybe he's been being a team player for years and is just sick of it. Personally I think if Alonso was as great as some claim, there would never really be a need for team orders. My guess is that Felipe is just sick of bowing down to the team in his current state of bitterness. I don't think the team owe him a thing, but Felipe just doesn't seem to see it that way.

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZoESZe0mCs

Yes, fully alongside! Level, even!

Massa's onboard proves it!




Please Note - Those of a Kimi Disposition, who may suffer from Unable-To-Apportionate-Fault-On-Their-Boy-Syndrome, may wish to look away.

Kimi evidently was.

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Now all you have to do is find a rule that says you can force a driver off the track. I've never seen that one in the Sporting Regs myself.

Alonso caused his own puncture and the video makes it clear. Kimi was not required to yield when Fred turned into him.

Do you think it's a conspiracy theory that Kimi got away with playing by the rules?

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Originally Posted by airshifter

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Felipe , Fernando is faster than you .

Sorry , Mousa , but it's true .
The reds pay this guy million$ to drive for them . That's "drive for them" , in case anybody missed that little portion of my statement .

What he's done here is trip over his pouty lower lip , because he could have shown himself as still fast , but more so loyal , to a team who nursed him back to health and held his position for him .
It was early on in the race , so who really knows how it could have affected the results , both in terms of timing , and in terms of extra tire wear on Alonso's car .

He's just shown , once again , that he will disobey team orders as it suits him .

Is his Ferrari experience worth the risk of experiencing the pout for any potential employers ?

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I completely agree, and had already stated in another thread that I would have preferred if Felipe took the high road and just did as asked. As the race showed, he had nothing to gain by pouting, and everything to lose. Now he has proven both that he is not a team player in this circumstance, and that Alonso was faster.

But depending on his contract specifics, maybe he's been being a team player for years and is just sick of it. Personally I think if Alonso was as great as some claim, there would never really be a need for team orders. My guess is that Felipe is just sick of bowing down to the team in his current state of bitterness. I don't think the team owe him a thing, but Felipe just doesn't seem to see it that way.

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On the contract dear sir, Massa has always been a team player. When he was partnered with The Shoe, he always played ball, always. I think the fact that he is being dropped by Ferrari at the end of the season has made him feel he doesn't have to comply anymore as his job is already done and dusted. I for one won't begrudge him that, let him race.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZoESZe0mCs

Yes, fully alongside! Level, even!

Massa's onboard proves it!




Please Note - Those of a Kimi Disposition, who may suffer from Unable-To-Apportionate-Fault-On-Their-Boy-Syndrome, may wish to look away.

Kimi evidently was.

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Now all you have to do is find a rule that says you can force a driver off the track. I've never seen that one in the Sporting Regs myself.

Alonso caused his own puncture and the video makes it clear. Kimi was not required to yield when Fred turned into him.

Do you think it's a conspiracy theory that Kimi got away with playing by the rules?

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Except there is no turning in by Fernando. There is a clear failure by Kimi to avoid a collision.

Fault 100% his.

True, there was no Stewards punishment. And they are totally infallible, aren't they? They've never made a dumb call?