To me it was always a mystery why people described Massa as mister nice guy... his behavior in Japan fits too well with what I think of him.
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To me it was always a mystery why people described Massa as mister nice guy... his behavior in Japan fits too well with what I think of him.
What did he do wrong? He was abused to make Alonso shine for years, now that they said that he's outlived his usefulness, he tries to drive for his future. What's wrong with that? Shall he beg for the Scuderria to bend him over the nearest piece of furniture to give him yet another jolly good anal seeing-to? Especially now where Fernando hasn't got more than a minute theoretical chance in the title fight anyways? He always did what they asked him to. Now he thinks of his own future. I see nothing wrong with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
Indeed, let's look forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Hopefully, Kimi will, for a change.
he could have done the job he was supposed to do, help the team. in the end the only thing he proved was that he was no match for FA anyway and being a no. 2 at Ferrari is all he could be. instead he sort of thrown the toys out of the pram and for what? The team has been more than patient with him.. and it turns out still is. He should have been a goner a long time ago.
Help the team doing what? Fernando would need to win all remaining races and the top 3 were already half a week up the road and Ferrari doesn't look good enough for a podium right now. Why should he roll over in what might be the last races of his career for no apparent reason or benefit? At the time they were running 4th and 5th and for the WCC it doesn't make the faintest difference, who finishes ahead. And for the driver title Alonso can just as well do the French thing and surrender. There was no gain from rolling over other than stroking Alonso's ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
get all the points they can get.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
i think in the end that's just what he didQuote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
[quote=Big Ben]get all the points they can get.[/quote:1ts9ofu2]Quote:
Originally Posted by "dj_bytedisaster":1ts9ofu2
And how does it help to let Alonso pass for 4th when the other 3 before him are out of reach anyways? There was no car infront of Massa that Alonso could've challengend. I would have agreed if this had been a 8/9 situation with Alonso more likely to make up a few more positions, but 4th was the best they could've hoped for in any case. No real reason to wave Alonso past.
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Originally Posted by Parabolica
He will, he will! I think his mind already is on next year. Air tickets are very expensive.
About Massa. Four nearly four years now he has been Fernandos slouch, he even had to break the sealing on his gearbox for him!! The whole Ferrari team know this and are ashamed. Therefore no punishment!!
Let him drive at his own will for a few races for gods sake.
I can understand both points with Felipe.
He has been treated as a #2 every since Alonso joined the team, and subject to team orders on a number of occasions. But he has allowed that to happen and accepted it. He's now angry he doesn't have a ride with Ferrari next year and wants to prove a point. He could have allowed Alonso to pass early on, then raced his own race after that. Then potential teams would have saw him as both a team player and the driver he is.
I wish Felipe would have taken the high road myself and just allowed Fernando to pass. I can understand his frustration, but Ferrari have been good to him as he has never really returned to full form after the accident. I guess he is just sick of being #2. Maybe if he gets a ride he will be happier on equal terms with another driver in a lesser car.
On the flip side, though I don't feel Ferrari owe him anything at all, they really had nothing to gain doing what they did either. The title is gone at this point, and the finishing order won't help them in constructors points. If they think Alonso is #1, make him prove it on track rather than think he will always have a lapdog to order around through the team.