I deleted a response to this as it lowered myself to the level of this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
I think he thought he was being funny…..
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I deleted a response to this as it lowered myself to the level of this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
I think he thought he was being funny…..
For sure, I am sure there is potential in there…I just hope they can find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
What lives are affected by gryazin driving here?Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
I have had enough of the constant propaganda and blind hate being stirred from both sides. Hate putin or zelensky all you want, but don't direct your hate to people who have nothing to do with it.
Another perfect rally for Kalle, there was no need to go and try catch Ogier.
Toyota seems much better than the others on asphalt, Kalle was trashing everyone on gravel last year and good luck beating him in Sweden, Finland and Estonia... I know many say it's still early, but what could possibly happen to even bring up a fight for the championship? Can't imagine anything realistic, unfortunately.
In case Skoda Auto does some repercussions towards Skoda Motorsport your rally watching will get directly affected. In 2016 VW had invested multiple tens of millions of euros into new car and were winning everything. Yet VAG leadership pulled the plug.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Also the likehood of new manus joining might just have reduced.
"Rallyworld" is not its own reality.
Oliver wins PS in WRC2 and finishes 2:18 after Gryazin, with one puncture and one off loosing some 3:30...
Overall good rally for OliverQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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If you found hate from my lines, I recommend to re-read them. Please use pragmatic reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
I just try to point out, that people have different point of view to the war topic. This is also pointed out as Skoda PR actually can be complicated - why there is russian in the team if in other sport disciplines they are not allowed to compete.
Grazin seems nice guy without showing any shitty attitude. Personally I don't have any problem with him.
What people have questioned here about Grazin - what is his point of view at the war. If he publically supports the war (as I don't know his official statement, read this question as theoretical one) - do you stand for your statement? Like it does not matter if he supports killing people and using questionable money for his rallying, it's only important he is fast? To make more extreme example - would you say the same for serial killers, pedophiles etc, it's just important that they are fast? And in that situation - if things go wrong - what PR it makes to WRC or rally-sport in general?
> What lives are affected by gryazin driving here?
If your life happens to be affected by the war, and (theoratically) there is some guy who is supporting the government who is the agressor, it really matters what kind of feelings it creates towards sport.
My point is - it actually matters, who is competing, from where they get finances and what they promote.
On the rally topic - Ogier lead from 1st stage till the finish.
Not really surprising given there was no Loeb and this i20 for the time being isn’t as nimble as the previous gen car, you could see it either had understeer, or tail happy oversteer and sometimes one after the other, as much as M-Sport has a lot of work to do, at least they have Tänak who knows how to set up the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Thats right. Also we cannot allways separate everything from poltics, its more than politics. He looks like a good guy, I would like to not see any russian citizen in any of the international sports. They should’t have these oportunities till they have current goverment. Every citizen is responsible for its country.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
seeing baltic pseudonations seethe is hilarious...
Lol at people pretending like this is the first war in human history. I've never in my life seen calls for completely banning any other nationality form all of sports.
He's already competing without a flag, like all RU and BLR tennis players for example. I don't remeber US/UK/FR athletes ever being required to drop their flag.
If aliens came to earth today they'd think Russia invented war in 2022.
Can we please make a separate topic for this, if we have to disscuss it?
Being here for so long I can't take you seriously Greg so whatever typical nonsense you are bursting out this time, it doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOT
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Also, is there any mods here to remove the outright racist comments?
Im not against Russian/Blr competing in sport. Only thing i would want to see from Gryazin is statement condemning the war. But he cant do that because from what i know he gets most of his funding still from bank accounts mainly in Latvia. Which are of course filled with Russian money.
You questioned Skodas PR-machinery, calling it a "catastrofy coming", and what they´ll do with the brand after NG winning WRC2. Does this come from your fantasy or are you sitting in the management of Skoda?Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
You mix racism with xenophobia per se as there's no racial slur here nor I haven't seen any in my time here from 2003 or 2005 (can't remember really and not bothered to check it as well).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kras
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I was pointing to previous statements in this thread. I have not called it with any name, I can not understand what you are talking about. Mixing something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
did you ask for similar statements from Loeb or Ogier for what the frogs did to Lybia ? or from american athletes for what they did do Iraq and Afghanistan ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galev62
or killing brown muslims is fine ?
I don't really care for that dinstinction. It makes one sound less bad than the other, when it really isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
There's no concensus on what "race" is anyway
you can ask for sure about last century can you give some example for this century what France did same like Russia? oh you only know 100 years old story to make same as 21 century story ;) by the way in that century russian and france did dirty shit but now only russian doing :) so compare dirty job in difference century make sense yeah....
Did you know that Lybia is a failed state with no government, where 100s of gangs fight for territory and where there are multiple open-air slave markets? Did you know that this is a direct consequence of US/FR bombing compaigns i support of various off-brand Alquaeda insurgents?Quote:
Originally Posted by bwallace
FIA do require a statement condemning the war from Russian and Belorussian drivers, don't they? Also he got his funding from his family, which do business in the Baltic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galev62
I mean If Ott could take 14 points in three other tarmac events too, that would not be bad at all. Title will be won on gravel thats for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubled1978
If he could do that, would be awesome. Plus Ford needs to get rid of reliability problems that were present this weekend and also last year. If they could do that, then I think we have a championship to fight for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
sound very similar what will happend in russia sooner or later ;)
Yep, they should really fix their reliability issues. Theres certainly more stress on the car on gravel eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
No war is fine and they should also have been more critical of their goverment.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOT
I'm not sure you want Libya spanning 13 time zones with a few thousand nulcear bombs. But who cares what you wish anyway, you're just some hypocrite nobodyQuote:
Originally Posted by bwallace
- BEST OF MONTE CARLO BEST OF 2023 - CHECKPOINRALLYE -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMZa4AzIZ4
BGF VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7JsKVySHSk
Turbo2'Rallye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7idoQ9LRbYI
so now it is:
Ogier 9 vs Loeb 8 Monte-Carlo wins.
I'm quite sure, he wants to go for 10th..
I think Tanak and M-Sport hoped for ,,easier'' rally (as of more difficult weather conditions, so the performance gap wasn't that big), but got a proper full dry tarmac rally with mostly uphill stages.
Hopefully they got useful data for Croatia. I don't remember if Croatia stages are more flat or not..
Hope for difficult weather and not the tarmac rally was the main reason why they decided to not "waste" testing days before Monte.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
What do you mean by that? They had PET days where they could experience all the conditions that Monte can offer. Iirc they were were pleased that they had those conditions and could prepare like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Picked this from Betsafe interview with Tänak when host was a bit surprised that why Tänak is in resting mode instead of learning the car and do intense testing. They did their PET, but this is not clearly enough time to get familiar with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Now Monte was "long testing" to collect "topics to improve".
I meant that when the conditions would have been icy, snowy etc, then the lack of time in new car and differences between 3 cars' performance wouldn't have played tooo big role, but full tarmac was different story..
I think that with more slippery conditions Lappi wouldn't been so far back either..(yes, new i20 is tricky in slippery conditions, but still)
Testing days are very limited so I think it was pretty much all they could do. As there are no Monte conditions in their permanent site in Greystoke so nothing to do there also.
For me it's better to have this reality check here on the first rally so they would really know where they are other than to get this false positive signs that they are on pace on slippery conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Monte result was pretty much as expected as they didn't do as much development as Hyundai and Toyota did. But Ott was positive in a way that now they know where they are and they did get some answers (though some new questions arose).
Tänak to delfi:
* didn't expect to loose half of minute with penultimate stage, got extra motivation to drive last stage fast
* can not drive entire rally with the powerstage speed
* didn't take any risk in powerstage, but it was maximum
* now there are new questions to solve and with tarmac car there is few months time to find answers
* there was no goal for winning the rally, the goal was to earn points and get better picture of the car
* we are today behind, but we will find the way to get ahead
* can test 1 day for rally sweden - no experience on the snow yet
* important to catch Toyotas with first half of the year
source:
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/1201...gi-pohieesmark
Katsuta ok
Lopez ok
Johnston not ok.
https://twitter.com/RallySolo/status...98736445935617
Sordo ok
https://twitter.com/ACM_Media/status...80688372551683
Lopez from another better angle
https://twitter.com/Ale_Alelii/statu...85365512294401