Or maybe it's just norwegian glassesQuote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
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Or maybe it's just norwegian glassesQuote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
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Or estonian.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
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Erm... believing 'Mikkelsen pressure' was what caused Ogier to throw away the Spain win in 2015 and Tanak to get one of the unluckiest punctures in human history in Poland 2016... those will be Norwegian glasses you're wearing, sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
And while doing so loose 90% of spectators, which will cause all manufacturers to lose interest too due to no more revenue.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Wrc just needs to let the people who have the means to build a car compete, without having approval from one of the few remaining car companies. If they did this to f1 we would have like 6 cars on the grid left.
Where were all you guys 10-15 pages ago? :D
Last time I checked Ogier was still frenchQuote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
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Huuuge norwegian glassesQuote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
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So, you guys don't think a double reigning champion deserves a seat in wrc?
Who else? The question was who can step in at Ford, and he is the only one serious candidate for that seat, whatever national glasses.
And don't come dragging with some has been like meeke, Aava, gardemeister, grønholm or some youngster without experience, thats not what in the discusion here.
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I've told here before that I like the idea of Mikkelsen in a Puma. I think he deserves at least a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
It's strange why he hasn't been offered Rally 1 seat time before but I guess there's reasons.
Just that I see what concerns Mikkelsen his fanboys start to post nonsense.
And btw his speed in Rally2 hasn't been overwhelming. He beats the oppostion by experience but has had good resistance and by the looks of last year Lappi destroyed him and look how he is still struggling in Rally 1 and he has the best car in his hands.
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2016 rally wins (note 2 day cleaning for championship leaders):Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Ogier 6 (1st on the road whole year)
Mikkelsen 2 ( 2nd almost whole year)
Meeke 2 (one of last cars om both)
JML, Neuville, Paddon 1
You sure it wasn't unluckiest puncture in the whole universe?Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
Does Mikkelsens snowbank excursion on last stage of Sweden 2015 while leading count as unluckiest in all universes then?
Mikkelsens driveshaft failure (mechanic-induced) while leading Turkey 2018 by 40s is out of this world definitely.
..or more like, it's rally, shit happens.
Lappi beat him in one rally, single, uno, 1, ein...Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
This year a fast snow rally like that one has been his so far only decent result.
Impossible to conclude how either of them would do on any different rally based on single result. With regards to the car, note that Lappi also struggled with the dominating 2018 Toyota.
Mikkelsen has highly positive score in Rally2 vs Sordo, Breen, Suninen, Fourmaux and Solberg from the last few years. But yes since mid last year he no longer tries to dominate but instead just controls a win.
Ogier has won his 5 last titles "by experience", rather than by dominating, or maybe he won them cause he didn't try to dominate.
In an article about rally Estonia, Aava comments drop in spectator numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
One of his explanations based on some poll is that most people (60% -out of what?) said they will watch online.
For online watchers sound means close to zero. (since the volume of all cars is tuned to same level and hidden under commentary and/or co-driver).
Sound is right now the only big difference between petrol/hybrid and full EV, and it's not something that is impossible to change.
Hence I am extremely sceptical of your 90% claim.
But I do agree that going more "hobby"/non-manu teams could also be a different way.
True, I know lots of friends and people who preferred to stay behind the screen but where did you come up with the conclusion that for these guys sound is not important? Knowing personally quite few of them I know their preference and sound is totally one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Sound is the only difference between BEV an ICE powered vehicle? Newton wants to have a word with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Rally Estonia has got quite expensive to spectate as well. And if you want massive crowds, you need to be also aware of price sensitivity.
In a Betsafe podcast Aava admitted himself that the price is a bit too expensive. And just in case if someone from Rally Estonia team is reading this, then in my opinion it really was. Basically the same as in Rally Finland but compare the salaries people earn here. And then you start to calculate is it really worth it with the gas prices, accommodation etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Expensive, yes. At the same time not overly expensive and worth the money for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Bcs less spectators we had no issues with traffic, so I liked it a lot. Was expecting far worse.
Still my favourite rally is Catalunia :)
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Australia has multiple states each with a different state government.
It is state governments that fund major sporting events in Oz.
“We are in discussions with Australia over a new event, with a new government partner, hopefully for 2024” Simon Larkin, WRC Promoter Event Director
Yes, I'm sure a change in state government brought about the end of Perth as the Australia hosting WRC round. Would love to see that back, but one fears it's history.
Rally Finland spectator guide says that it's rumored that in the near future, Portugal and Catalunya would be losing their WRC status and be replaced by Cyprus and Latvia...there's an interview with Simon Larkin about getting WRC events in Middle East, North America etc. and reducing events in Europe, but this rumor is from the magazine's "own sources"
Hate to see both Portugal and specially Spain to lose their place in the Calendar. Imho Latvia and Cyprus has nothing to offer. North America is a welcomed addition though and keep WRC out of the desert :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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I hope that rumor isn’t true, Agree with Cali
We were just talking the other day with friends going to Portugal next year
Hyundai set to wait for major WRC car update
Hyundai Motorsport has revealed that major updates to resolve fundamental issues with its i20 N will wait until October at the earliest...
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/h...date/10348442/
I think Julien Moncet said something along those lines in his interview with Dirtfish last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
This one ? Its more about their new Finland test base...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...and-test-site/
In the hour(+) long video they posted on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmHnGybdsNcQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
When talking to Moncet he said the next time the car has joker part(s) being homologated is the 1st of October.
Latvia is coming, most probably 2024 for 1 or max 2 years. Fast, flowing gravel, check ERC. However, switching EST and Lat would make more sense. Est event looked a bit artificial, in fact. Having Fin as only fast gravel alternative is boring; combining Fin with 1 rally in Baltics makes sense - spectacular speeds, nice pics and videos, good warm up-build up for classical Fin. Makes sense.
Any sources for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
Spectator guide for Rally Finland also mentioned rumors of Latvia and Cyprus entering the series.
In Latvia preparations are already going on for round in 2024, so its very likely there is some kind of agreement with promoter already.
I guess there will be 30 rounds in few years
With rotational system coming back to include them all ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
This article explains the situation with Cyprus.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2022/07/21/l...-and-criminal/
The Cyprus Automobile Association on Thursday branded the finance ministry’s refusal to underwrite the holding of the Cyprus Rally over the next four years at WRC/ERC levels as “unreasonable and criminal”.
But CAA president Antonis Michaelides said the offer from the FIA – the governing body of motor sport — still stood for 2023-2025 and expressed the hope that the government to emerge from the February 2023 elections will reconsider.
Under the proposal, the Cyprus Rally 2023 would be held as part of the MERC (Middle East Rally Championship) or ERC (European Rally Championship) and those of 2024 and 2025 at WRC (World Rally Championship) level.
Michaelides said he also had an informal chat with Disy’s president who told him that “the minister is unpersuadable.”
So, with this government there is NO WAY for a WRC Rally Cyprus. If there is a new government in February 2023, we shall see.
Latvia, Estonia & Finland....really?? It's nearly as bad as Spain having 3-4 MotoGP rounds......
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Originally Posted by bomber21
So Portugal & Spain will remain for at least another year as some of you guys said Latvia are working on 2024, and Cyprus should've accepted the deal now to get the slot for next year.
Yeah, seems like too much of the same. I like Rally Estonia, I would like it to say. From what I've seen in Rally Liepaja, I don't think it's worth of WRC. Too much like driving on a highway and chicanesQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
There are possible road/stage options to made rally Liepaja an interesting WRC event and they have organization behind that to do so. Im all for Latvia round, but Estonia in a same year seems too much. Rotating both events seems the best choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
At least stick one in early spring or late autumn and get some weather variety. Liepaja was in winter in the past, so is Sweden under threat? Sure why not. :devil::laugh:
Liepaja has been boring so far, dull roads.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
I actually don't mind Estonia being out of WRC bit we should have some better options to replace it.
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https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/loeb-...y-for-m-sport/
Not much of a surprise really but nice to see him back again.