M-Sport with:
Breen
Paddon
Suninen ???
https://www.velocitynews.co.nz/news.php?id=3819
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M-Sport with:
Breen
Paddon
Suninen ???
https://www.velocitynews.co.nz/news.php?id=3819
“I find it quite amusing sitting at home reading the rumours and always wondering where’s that come from." - Hayden sums up silly season quite well, good to know the drivers get some entertainment from it too. :D
If Paddon would go to M-Sport, it would mean Hyundai would have offered only a half season. Who would do that half season in that case? Huttunen?
Would make sense as Sordo would focus on the tarmac rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Can't see Ostberg winding up at Hyundai.
Huttunen might be a bit too green to share the third car with Sordo. I'd say it would be better for both, Hyundai and Huttunen himself, that the team will have "Östberg" in the third car with Dani, so the young Finn could focus on WRC2 title-chase and have the occasional fourth WRC in 3-4 selected events.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
If this is the case, then it may even be Hyundai that find themselves on the back foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Toyota will have an ex msport, and an ex Citroen driver on their books with knowledge of those cars, Citroen will have an ex Toyota and ex msport driver, and msport will have an ex Citroen and ex (or possibly shared) Hyundai driver. Hyundai look like they remain with drivers, with the exception of mikkelsen with limited knowledge of a dodgy Citroen, that only know the Hyundai.
In this scenario, it may be Hyundai's best option to have Ostberg in a shared drive with Sordo, having prior knowledge of both the C3 and fiesta.
Maybe Evans can fit in shared i20 WRC and R5 season?
This would be an exciting lineup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
They was interested in him already a while ago. So it could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I was going to suggest Evans, but said Ostberg on the basis he has experience of both Fiesta and C3, but agree Evans could maybe do a job in Hyundai.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Paddon on loan at M-Sport was rumoured by Colin Clark last week.
I thought it had legs as it would give Paddon the full-time drive he badly needs (and cant get at Hyundai); plus it gives M-Sport a driver with no or reduced salary to pay.
The main drawback is M-Sport couldnt enter the Manu's Ch'ship.
I said it wouldnt hurt. He certainly made a lot of it on social media.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
All positive publicity is good when you are fighting for a drive.
French journal L'équipe of 12th october writes Lappi is about to leave Toyota, but WHEN is the official announcement :confused:
Why would Hyundai loan him out? He can't have a contract anyway for 2019, so why would they re-sign him and loan him out? Why not just not renew his contract and make him a free agent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But does it have to be 50-50? Sordo wanted a full season last time, then Penasse said, that they came to an arrangement that he shares a car? So maybe it is something like Huttunen in Sweden and Finland ( Sordo is not keen on Finland)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
On or before the 18th, if the rumour mill is accurate. Very soon if that's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
I know Rally Legend is contentious around these parts, but I found it (mildly) interesting that Meeke has some form of sponsorship from both Alpine Stars and Michelin, plus a co-driver change.
That could work, maybe Wales and Sardinia/Turkey/Australia for Huttunen also, 10-Sordo 4-HuttunenQuote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
That would sound much more reasonable (especially if the occasional fourth car is out of question, which it very well might be). Huttunen let's say in Sweden, Finland, Wales and Australia (?) and Dani drives the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
If Breen and Paddon are off to M-Sport it would make sense for Hyundai to use Evans for the events mentioned above and maybe a few others and let Dani tackle the rest. Rumor has it Dani was offered a full drive with Citroen and he turned it down. Not sure if this was before they signed Lappi or what, but it tells us Sordo is just fine doing a few events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Wouldn't surprise me if Meeke has a different co-driver sitting next to him next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomhlord
Think you two are reading too much into it. Think he had the same co driver on the last rally legend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I'm not talking about Rally Legend though. I'm talking about next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Neuville has driven Citroën and ford, mikkelsen has driven citroen and volkswagen, sordo has driven 3 generations of citroen cars and mini.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
If by now they don't know what a good car is supposed to be like, they will never know.
Yes I know, but what do you base that assumption on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I doubt Kris wants rid of Paul, as he has made only one serious co driving error in many years.
Does Paul want to stop co driving for Kris on the other hand, we don't know yet. Some seriously heavy shunts could possibly play on his mind, but that may be down to driving a dog of a car, he may feel more comfortable going to what seems to be the best car in the championship at the moment, but again we won't know until driver/co driver confirmation has happened.
None of those cars are used in the wrc now, so any comparison is of no technical use whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
You misunderstood what he is saying..
He says "they" referring to the people..Subject...then he continued with the verb "if they don't KNOW what good is supposed to be"
He said nothing about technical spec, rather they should KNOW--like possess knowledge---of what good is---and if they don't by this point, they never will.
Understand? Knowing something is GOOD is important even if you don't know all the details.. Knowing what is bad is also important..
And it is an absurdity of fan-based forums to suppose the majority of drivers at any elite level know how the inner workings of things actually work...there are technicians, engineers and mechanics who have the job of "knowing" the "how" of shimming inserts or setting up diffs or cam timing..
But they must KNOW when the car "works" right..they are DRIVERS
Yes I understood perfectly what he said and meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
I know drivers are not technicians.
But a driver can, and should, be able to understand how a car behaves, where they can eek out a few tenths under braking, cornering, acceleration etc.
This is why I pointed out drivers with knowledge of current cars.
Case in point. Tanak leaves msport and joins Toyota.
Msport happened to win drivers and constructors championship last season, with the car tanak helped develope.
It has been said that Tanak has lead to developments of the Yaris, that has moved it a little bit away from the liking of Latvala/Lappi.
Funnily enough, Toyota are, at the moment, leading the Manus championship.
Yep, that would be great, but without a major sponsor it’s easier to believe it’ll be Paddon or Breen, rather than both, alongside Suninen. Plus paying drivers (including Block) rotating on a 3rd car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Btw, what about Abu Dhabi? Will they continue with Citroen, move to another team or pull out from the series?
Just some time ago I heard that Paul Nagle was trying to find new seats, but it may have been before the Toyota deal came around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
announcement today, no? I doubt Lappi and Meeke both will be announced on the same dat, 18th.
https://twitter.com/esapekkalappi/st...91093887967233Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
If anyone at Toyota or Citroen HQ is reading this forum, just announce them already please.
Maybe they are going to surprise us, and want to sit around laughing at the rumours for a bit longer first.
They said that Breen could pay...maybe Paddon also (although, in that case, why not pay for the i20? Not possible to run 4 cars on every event?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Rumours appear to be true: https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-of-wrc-return
That could work. I allready thought that some time ago. Kris need some refresh. Hope Sebastian Marshall is the chosen one. Great guy.
It is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Poor Nagle, when he aknowledged about Toyota interest he should have been like "oh god, not again" :D
Kidding, I'm happy the separation seems to be amicable. We will miss his "Jesus Christ Kris" :)