He loves titles, not money.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
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He loves titles, not money.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
^ I'll take care of the money...
congrats to Mads and Beate
@MadsOstberg
My biggest victory and proudest moment ever! We're filled with love and happiness right now. Love you Beate for creating a miracle
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How much he will earn this year? VW money + M-sport... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Is it important?
are you a taxman...Quote:
Originally Posted by lnvs
I think WRC salaries are interesting. They are not speculated or listed like in every other sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Happy birthday to the Master! (43)
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Latvala cracked at vw.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/febru...9--12-12-.html
^ it's more like VW cracked Latvala... the way Ott Tänak is going to be cracked by Malcolm Wilson /Ford/ because of Ogier
lol
Doesn't seem that way so far, Ott was pretty much on the pace of Ogier in the first two rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Explain ?Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
ever heard that one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o0rAvZtM7wQuote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
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Originally Posted by EstWRC
http://i.giphy.com/l44Qlz74wRpWiF5Dy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
That situation from the gif and what Latvala is describing are two completely different things. Use your brain please.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
the sad thing is that he does...Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I like nonsense it wakes up the brain cells...
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There's enough nonsense on here without just saying it for effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
only stupid people will keep posting at a forum they believe there is ''enough nonsense''
Classic reference but I don't think there were any team orders holding Latvala back. It's not like someone put water in his gas tank, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
There was already talk in Sweden about whether Ott would be asked to step back to let Ogier score more points. So I don't think it's too stupid what danon is suggesting.
If/when the manufacturers title becomes more a direct possibility then Malcolm may get more of an itchy trigger finger on those team orders. But it's too early to worry about that yet. So far I don't think Ott could have done anything more in 2017.
People will always talk about that, because Ogier is multi champ..but whether it's being discussed at M-Sport is a different matter. I certainly don't see them choosing to run a car on 3 cylinders instead of just telling a driver to check in to a TC late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I don't run with the idea of JML cracking at VW because of team orders either. It was clear that he just wasn't comfortable in the team and that they didn't really like his style (he's all touchy feely, not empirical like Ogier is and like VW would want)...y'know, that and the fact that Ogier is obviously a quicker driver. Team orders would have been very low down on the list of reasons he couldn't cut it with the Germans.
Ogier is a more consistent driver. Quicker... maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
More consistently quicker?
- all it takes to crack someone is make him uncofortable... and wait...Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
in human psychology the breaking point is a moment of stress in which a person breaks down or a situation becomes critical and the intensity of environmental stress necessary to bring this on varies from individual to individual
the rest is history
Well if you base your opinions on hunches and hope, then maybe not. If you base it on the empirical evidence then Ogier has been consistently quicker over a number of rallies/seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
You think that VW purposely made their driver uncomfortable from the moment they employed him? That's a pretty wild conspiracy theory, I'm interested in why you think they'd do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Latvala had the same ''crack'' problems at whole carrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
it's as simple as that - Ogier is a gold mine for any investorQuote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
do not be surprised if Ott starts getting uncomfy too
For that to make sense then it would have required Latvala to be threatening him in at least a few rallies from the start of his VW employment. This was his first season:Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Round 1 - retired, crash. Ogier 2nd
Round 2 - 4th, Ogier won
Round 3 - 16th, Ogier won
Round 4 - 3rd, Ogier won
Round 5 - 3rd, Ogier 2nd
Roudn 6 - won, Ogier 10th
Round 7 - 3rd, Ogier won
And it goes on. As far as crackpot theories go you've really got a doozy, it's so good that even your reason for it doesn't make sense.
^@dimviii
Tommi has a big influence on Latvala and can finally make him a champ.
He is like the Master Yoda to Luke - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmGhSdHJ41U
^@Mr Jan
Stats...
Sometimes one need a small input or a thrill to make a B-I-G difference... turning the stats upside down making it a big time.
Yeah, sometimes. As in, sometimes Ogier hasn't been quickest....but most of the time he has, despite running first on road etc. etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
I don't like the guy (trust me, JML is one of my favourite drivers and he's defintely quick) but you're a fool if you try to argue that Ogier hasn't been the quickest out of the two.
Well, he is definitely quick and probably the best universal driver, but mostly he is clever and mentally strong and that is his key to success. When is rivals break under pressure, he does not (to finish 1st you first have to finish). So you can say he is the quickest but thankfully on a good day almost every driver can be quicker or equally quick...we just need more of those days. We shouldn't also forget that he has only used the best available equipment so far, last one built mostly to (by) him.
I guess You missed 2015 wrc season?Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
I never did. And will never do. You didn't get my point. Take a look at the GIF again and think of Ott vs Ogier. Could the history repeat itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
For the records: All is based on my sixth chakra who says Ott feels at ease driving the Ford than Ogier. Ford is not Ogier's lethal weapon.
..... YET!Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
The Skoda wasn't Ogier's lethal weapon either but come Sardinia he was setting a fastest stage time in a S2000. I think by Sardinia Seb O will have discovered the limit of the Fiesta so that he can challenge for 1st without breaking it, something he does better than anyone competing currently. As for Ott, I think he will step up to a new level seeing how the best approaches the job at close quarters.
People forget that even Latvala have much more km on new cars than Ogier. Let him learn the car and teach the car.... i think in Tour de Corse and Portugal we will see much more from him. He is smart, 18pts is better than 0, why push if no total confidence in car yet?