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Actually i was wrong about likeenas....the difference is at the end of the stage...the start is exactly the same....this year the route has been altered and they created a new route in the arena section of the finish line. Thus the time was slower last year.
you are in a hurry to prove 1,6 wrc slow.Wait for s2000 crews to finish the stage to compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Also you have to decide if we have to compare from previous years or NOT.
i do not know and i do not care....the fact that the wrcs are slower of those of last years is evident in the eye and on the time sheets. if people want to live in a parallel universe its fine by me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julle69
Yes, it's sure they are slower and now we can compare times in exactly same SS...
you have to take a lot of parameters....stage times is one....smaller displacement and smaller turbo another...and the fact that they developed the cars for a few months in their full regulations homologation. If you still believe they are on par with the real-WRCs then there is not much we can do to help you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
First wrc is 30 sec faster than first swrc in 2010 and 2011. New wrc cars should be about as fast as last year. Maybe just a fraction slower. During the year they will become even faster than the previus carsQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
last year faster s2000 car was Andersson at+33,6
if Sandell is fastest this year are very close at +30,6
So another time again 1,6 wrc cars have the same difference with 2,0 wrc cars against s2000 cars
NOT so slow...
edit Lambros catch me inside ss lol
There are different conditions these year. And this year also different tires.....too wide tires compared to last year. That slow the pace on winterconditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
body damage to Loeb's car - hit a snow bank, suspension OK
+ they sound better and go more sideways.Quote:
Originally Posted by GINE
And there's more drivers who can win.
So what's the problem?
Last years sandells time was 8:01 this years 8:14 same cars same driver...so the stage is a bit slower this year but not by 40 seconds
Nice try, but ss times says that somebody else need help.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
last year Sandell was slower than subarus.....learn to compare right. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Kimi continues solid driving, hope he can do it whole weekend...
7:53 Sandells (he wasn't slower than any subarus during that pass) best time on the stage during pass 1 then in 2010...still 20 seconds with his time today....so the wrc of today lose around 10 seconds from those of last years (7:43-7:13 minus the 20 seconds from stages disadvantage of this years) in a 14kms section.....so around 0.8/km. still believe they are as quick ?
fighting with wilson is not considered solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julle69
Sandell at 2010 was loosing continously from Subarus of Tanak,Flodin and was much slower than faster s2000 crews.To compare Sandell with such low speed at 2010 to see if 1,6 wrc are fast IN 2011 is FAIL!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
sandells times from sagen 1.....
http://2010.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=251&filtr=
i do not see any subarus infront...do you ? you refer to second pass thats why you see the subarus infront
i used a same driver with the same car to see if the stage is any slower. because 40 in 14kms seconds seemed a lot to be honest.....the stage is indeed slower but still the cars are slower around 1sec/km....which is as expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Greg last year Sandell wasn t from the fast crews with s2000 cars.Imho we have to compare fastest s2000 crew at stage,if we want to have some near right comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
About Viggen 1 again Sandell was equal with Flodin with scooby.Also at whole rally was slow if you see all special stages.No near fast with other s2000 crews.
and again if you compare the time....sandell was 40 seconds slower that the scratch time last year during 1st pass and he is 30 seconds slower this year than the scratch...simple math.
no reason to discuss any further.....this argument made me even forget how useless kimi and wilson are...
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Hopefully this year won't be another Loeb year, as a snow rally is usually not so predictable as other rallies.
the fastest crew is not the same driver.....so you compare different things....Andersson can be a better or worse driver than sandel......when you compare things you must keep as many constants as possible for safe results.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
And last but not least, a new tyrebrand. Not sure if the Michelins are better or worse than last years Pirellis. But an important factor !Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
3.9 sec lead for Østberg. Will Hirvonen take over the lead after this stage??
Hopefully not. I am absolutely no fan of Hirvonen. Østberg has the future and is much more spectacular in my opinion.
Ostberg doesn't have the experience to open the road and run outside of others lines....so i guess Hirvonen will pass him but he has to keep pushing so anything can happen. Currently as results are formed i see no difference or change in the attitudes of the drivers so i think the championship will be between Loeb, Ogier and Latvala with solberg always being the dark horse.
next stage is on....
Stage is on.
Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Mads has arguably more experience than anyone of opening the stage in snowy conditions as he does it in almost every round of the Norwegian championship. I agree Mikko will overtake him though.
you have a point to that....but there is a difference to have mikko chasing you than the village champion of norway.
Latvala already on orders from ford to hold station......
Nice attack by Solberg....seems that this stage has more snow than the others....
Petter on a chase...
Good split from Petter. Seems like he is more comfortable with the ds3 now.
ØSTBERG M. / ANDERSSON J. "Just very difficult at the moment,lot of snow in the forest. We losing lot of time, but I can't push anymore. But it's fight with big boys." from rally.cz
Mads still lead :)
Hello, will power stage broadcast into a internet?
i think Ogier is already focused on his championship chances for this year and he doesn't risk much.