Porsche has been slower than R3...
And Abarth is not faster than Porsche.
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Porsche has been slower than R3...
And Abarth is not faster than Porsche.
Is that because they're old RWDs and the R2 are modern cars with better suspension and brakes?Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
How do You know? It has nearly 400 kg less. So far we haven't seen a single stage time.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
at tarmac I expect to be faster from r2 but slower from r3.
at gravel imho he will loose from both.
I am talking for average performance,and not some stages that could use the advantage of extra power.
Many of R2 are faster than R3 ;)
yes it happens with better driver at r2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Not really, some of the old RWD's are worth twice as much as an R2Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
You mean that some drivers are faster with R2 cars than some other drivers,
even if they are driving in R3 cars.
According to http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/muniz-...-abartha,72886 Spanish driver Álvaro Muñiz Mora is going to drive Abarth 124 in the Spanish tarmac championship 2017.
I see you can get a used Porsche from 80 000 €. Not sure if it is according to the FIA regulations, it is from France, but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
What is the price for a new Porsche R-GT?
The GT86 R3 is aprox 85 000 €
140 000 for the Abarth seems steep.
New stock 911 GT3 RS costs 182 thousand Euro (that's with VAT so somewhat less for the teams)...
Doesn't look bad after all. Those 300-400 kg less than 911 are very clearly visible.
On the video, it seem like the yellow and red cars engines are cheating in the mid level rev band, and that the all white one do not.
When the drivers really get to know the cars, we will se a lot of nice power sliding with them, when they trust the power feed, and the fun factor becomes more important than the result!
And it shows that the GT86 deserves a turboengine!
R3T will never match RGT
Why? It's sport and it's about competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I don't remember that Pech or Zeltner were slower than Clio's or DS3 R3T......Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Thats i said ;)
None one of those drove RGT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
RGT are slower than R3T at certain but relatively often seen situation, i.e. bad weather and muddy roads and gravel/snow where RGT are near useless.
Abarth is back!
Both of them nice.
Andolfi's car in Italian colours:
http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201701/104244-andolfi.jpg
Yep, no olio fiat or any other old scholl livery, but the car looks great anyway! Quite the opposite from '17 WRC's...
Not a bad start for Francois Delecour in the Monte Carlo Rally. He is currently 22nd on stage 2, faster than many R5 cars - Bergkvist, Tempestini, Giordano...
Pretty sure Bergkvist had trouble (spin, off, held up by Dumas maybe). Probably the others too. There's a section in the splits where some of the WRC 2 field lose a lot of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Still impressed though. Didn't expect the car to be that quick...
Bergkvist had some transmission issues, and went off the road, Dumas started after Bergkvist had finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Ah, yes, you are of course correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
Still very remarkable achievement by Delecour-fastest in the 2WD class! For sure surprise....
Giordano had problems too, engine if I remember correctly.
Andolfi in the second Abarth is not bad too! He is 20th on stage 3, second fastest in 2WD and quicker than many R5 drivers again - Kremer, Bonato, Basso, Crugnola, Boland... and quicker than the Porsche of Romain Dumas :)
Oh no! Fabio Andolfi crashed. One Abarth down :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLT...ature=youtu.be
Two down, Delecour out with mechanical issues. Looks like something they could not fix overnight.
So only mr Noberasco left. Hope he makes it to the finish, and enjoys himself!
What happened to Delecours car?
One Fiat 124 made it to the finish, so Abarth got a lot of data to analyze.
Next rally in cup in France
http://www.fia.com/events/rgt-cup/season-2017/rgt-cup
According to the press release Delecour was forced to withdraw due to a differential oil cap failure:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
http://www.fiatpress.com/press/artic...ye-monte-carlo
So Romain Dumas and his Porsche won the R-GT category by a great margin even though he went off the road on SS2 and had to use Super Rally to continue.
http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201...123_73581h.jpg
Havent seen any news about Andolfi, is he fine after that accident?
Are there any good videos about the R-GTs in Monte Carlo?
Video on the new Fiat 124. Difficult conditions for a RWD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kopcP-3gwzA&app=desktop
Does anyone know if Dumas is going to drive the Porsche again in WRC this year? I couldn't find anything on his website.
May be on Corsica next?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66