Tomi, that is probably the most fatuous post I have ever seen. It's also so untrue that no sentient person would believe it. You and Eki. It must really hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
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Tomi, that is probably the most fatuous post I have ever seen. It's also so untrue that no sentient person would believe it. You and Eki. It must really hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Mark: Eki and reality are not good friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I guess it's common practise in most countries for soldiers to be subject to Military Law (and judged by a military court) while on duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
They are not being tried in a civilian Iraqi court because they are Americans in the US Military. The UCMJ is a far harsher court of law than any American civilian one, and while Iraqi's should have some sort of say in what happens to these men if found guilty, belive me, unlike the regime that was here 5 years ago, military crimes against a civilian population are being tried in a proper manner and if convicted, these US soldiers could at the very least be in jail for a very long time. Anyone on here do time in Leavenworth? Trust me, I know from my friends in the Canadian Military about the Canadian Military jail in Edmonton, and they told me it has nothing on the strict regime of disicpline dished out at Fort Leavenworth.
Not untrue, last august Union Square metrostation, every day i vent to the metro. Other stations too. Or maybe they where lying who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by agwiii
One more thing. The Trial of Saddam Hussein was a farce. He was given ample opportunity to defend himself but his whole defense was that the people running the trial had no jurisdiction, and that he could do as he saw fit. Meanwhile, while in the custody of the US Marines he seemed to be more bent on firing any lawyer who questioned his defense methods while inhaling large amounts of Doritos that the Marines were happy to supply him with. He was not mistreated and he was given the opportunity to defend himself. I say the trial was a farce because he didn't do a thing do defend his actions. Eki has given a far more spirited defense of Saddam Hussein here on the boards....
Saddam was given a fair trial, just he kept getting in the way of any defense he might have. At no time did his cousel nor Saddam give any kind of plea for clemency nor any sorrow for the way things had turned out. He was defiant to the end.
No I'm not. Are you in Iraq then? And as far as I know Finland is much closer to Iraq than US is - not that it would matter anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by agwiii
Just today it was reported that Iraqi police found 27 bodies in Baghdad nera US and UK embassies. They were killed in execution style. Does that sound like a democracy to you?
Woodeye, it may not be democracy as we know it, but who would have a chance at it with Saddam running the country. You have to understand something. There is a full blown attempt to create a civil war between the Sunni's and Shiites. Iraqi people who have decided that this is the time to settle ethnic and religious scores. The reason the US Military hasn't left is because of crap like this. It isn't the American military that is telling all these factions to kill each other, they would love it all to stop so they could go the hell home.
Contrary to popular belief, murders happen on the streets of many democratic nations. I bet Finland has a few murders too. Does that mean I should condemn the Finnish government for it? No, Iraq isn't a democracy that is strong enough to enforce its own laws while giving much in the way of freedom. It is a constant state of war, but the only thing the US Military did wrong was show up and take way the lid on this cauldron. That said, they are trying to stop the carnage now, and are paying with casualties. So it is a mess, no doubt, but lets not confuse this with the thread topic. Saddam is gone, so at least Iraq has hope. If left to you and Eki, Saddam would be allowed to kill, maim and persecute his nation until he died of old age, and then hand the job off to Uday and Qusay, of course until they lost power, and then we would have the same civil war we have now....
Woodeye I ask you this, were you as upset for the people of Iraq and their condition before Saddam?? I have no time for people who condemn others to live under dictators while living in a democratic soceity with the rule of law protecting their feelings of protest...
people here call it a civil war already, simply because it is a civil war already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa