Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)
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I think it means a lot - in fact I think it tells you everything. It means there is still money / resources coming from Ford.
otherwise, obviously, there's no reason for it to be there!
When Jordan launced their F1 team 7UP were not a big £££ sponsor but as they were the biggest they had(but certainly not the biggest they wanted although they liked their colour..) they liveried the the car like it was a big deal and created one of F1s most attractive liveries, got noticed and got people talking, EJ knew enough to not launch a car looking short of a title sponsor, it would most likely have killed the team at its start, Wilson/Msport are in the same position this year, to have had less branding on the car than they have would have harmed them, I dont know the detail of their deals but I do know they have to keep a front up if they want to have a chance of getting a new title sponsor.
P.S. Did anyone else notice that we had 4 works teams in Monte and only 2 real sponsors between them?
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)
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Luis Moya’s inside track
The WRC highlights show on Canal+ España - broadcast on the ensuing Monday after each World Championship round - is building a great reputation as a reliable source for some juicy WRC gossip.
The focus of the rumour mill is the great Luis Moya.
Back in November of last year, it was Moya who accurately revealed that Dani Sordo has received offers from both Citroën and Hyundai for 2014.
The New Year has not diminished Moya’s eagerness to impart his inside-track.
On last night’s show (20/1/14), Luis claimed Ford were on the verge of imminently returning to WRC with M-Sport and Toyota were close to announcing their return to top-flight world rallying.
Moya wasn’t finished there. He went to claim that Citroën Racing had offered Elfyn Evans a full programme of drives for 2014 and 2015 during the post-2013 merry-go-round.
Beginning to wish Canal+ España put English subtitles on their broadcasts as this show is becoming unmissable!
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)
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Originally Posted by rallyfiend
I think it means a lot - in fact I think it tells you everything. It means there is still money / resources coming from Ford.
otherwise, obviously, there's no reason for it to be there!
When Jordan launced their F1 team 7UP were not a big £££ sponsor but as they were the biggest they had(but certainly not the biggest they wanted although they liked their colour..) they liveried the the car like it was a big deal and created one of F1s most attractive liveries, got noticed and got people talking, EJ knew enough to not launch a car looking short of a title sponsor, it would most likely have killed the team at its start, Wilson/Msport are in the same position this year, to have had less branding on the car than they have would have harmed them, I dont know the detail of their deals but I do know they have to keep a front up if they want to have a chance of getting a new title sponsor.
P.S. Did anyone else notice that we had 4 works teams in Monte and only 2 real sponsors between them?
Shell, Castrol, Total, Abu Dhabi, Red Bull, Michelin...
That's more than two.
It's not unusual for manufacturer-backed teams to keep the bulk of exposure for their own brand: Audi, Ferrari, Citroen, Peugeot etc etc.
Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part III)
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Originally Posted by rallyfiend
I think it means a lot - in fact I think it tells you everything. It means there is still money / resources coming from Ford.
otherwise, obviously, there's no reason for it to be there!
When Jordan launced their F1 team 7UP were not a big £££ sponsor but as they were the biggest they had(but certainly not the biggest they wanted although they liked their colour..) they liveried the the car like it was a big deal and created one of F1s most attractive liveries, got noticed and got people talking, EJ knew enough to not launch a car looking short of a title sponsor, it would most likely have killed the team at its start, Wilson/Msport are in the same position this year, to have had less branding on the car than they have would have harmed them, I dont know the detail of their deals but I do know they have to keep a front up if they want to have a chance of getting a new title sponsor.
P.S. Did anyone else notice that we had 4 works teams in Monte and only 2 real sponsors between them?
Shell, Castrol, Total,
Abu Dhabi, Red Bull, Michelin...
That's more than two.
It's not unusual for manufacturer-backed teams to keep the bulk of exposure for their own brand: Audi, Ferrari, Citroen, Peugeot etc etc.
Its 2 true sponsorships that have chosen this sport to back for profile, rather than keeping cozy with a manufacturer
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P.S. Did anyone else notice that we had 4 works teams in Monte and only 2 real sponsors between them?
Shell, Castrol, Total, Abu Dhabi, Red Bull, Michelin...
That's more than two.
It's not unusual for manufacturer-backed teams to keep the bulk of exposure for their own brand: Audi, Ferrari, Citroen, Peugeot etc etc.
He said proper sponsors, oil and tyres don't really count in that respect I think.
You have a bit of a point re: manufacturers not always having external sponsors (although Ferrari in F1 still have Santander and Marlboro) although we have had various tobacco manufacturers in WRC when it was legal, Martini with Ford, Telefonica with Citroen and Ford...
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Do not underestimate the costs of oil and different oil-based lubricant costs. I remember that for WR Car wheels there was one special lubricant that they had to use after certain number of km-s and the cost for one use was thousands of Euros.
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Total have stumped up huge amounts of cash to help manufacturers over the years in different forms of motorsport.
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They had the same last year:
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/151...ar-inline2.jpg
Nothing has officially changed - since last year Ford remained in support of M-Sport from a technical side, mainly in terms of the engine I think. 2014 is no different......so far ;)
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Not WRC but you can follow the fight between Mads Østberg and Pontus Tidemand in Mountain Rally Norway this weekend here at this new results page a friend made :)
http://skatterod.no/rally/