Same Sex Marriage

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

You've drawn your conclusion about me and my family, without any room for tolerance whatsoever.

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Says the man who believes there should be a blanket ban on homosexuals adopting and marrying, for no good reason whatsoever. My opinion on your parenting abilities is based precisely on how you portray yourself in this thread, which is as a bigot with a significant degree of intolerance towards people who don't happen to conform to your own bland, restrictive norms. I don't think such people would be the best parents. You, on the other hand, have come to a conclusion about the parenting abilities of myself and other people like me on the basis of our sexual preferences and nothing more. There is no comparison between my comments about you and yours about me.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Anyway, just wanted to point out that the last phrase in your post is pointing out the issue that this thread is all about, homosexuals do not want to be tolerated, they want to have equal rights.

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Exactly. 'Tolerate' is a pretty dreadful word to use about a fellow human being on the basis of nothing more than whether they happen to like having sex with people of the same gender. One's view of someone should be based on factors other than that.

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Originally Posted by ioan

There are quite a few cases where kids in society are brought up by couples (of opposite sex) which are still very different from what the majority is, do they all develop serious psychological issues?

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Another very good point. How can anyone define 'normal'?

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Originally Posted by ioan

I have to disagree on this one.

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Well, I like church buildings. My preferences would be for a civil wedding in church.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I don't care what same sex marriage has to do with it, as in this instance I was referring to the fact that you were enquiring what do we do with unwanted children. Well, prevention is better than cure.

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What do you mean by your last sentence? I hope you don't mean that suppressing homosexuals is the key to getting rid of this topic altogether.

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Originally Posted by Bezza

I think Straight couples should be given preference. You can call that bigoted if you want, BDunnell, but in reality it isn't - its a free-will opinion of mine - and it is not like I'm enforcing that opinion as fact.

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Sir, I think that's absurd. The vetting process for parents who want to adopt would be the best choice, and not just the straight or gay option. I really don't think you're a bigot, so please don't raise that claim against me. I do think that you're misinformed about gay couples being able to adopt. The mountain of crap any couple has to go through here in USA to adopt a child is equally tedious for hetero/homo- sexual couple.

You should read and think before posting. I don't agree with it, not asking for a ban.

Prevent unwanted children.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

You should read and think before posting. I don't agree with it, not asking for a ban.

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I did read what you wrote, and it didn't fully explain what you meant. That's why I asked a question, sir. There's no need to be curt with your response. If you don't agree with homosexuals, then that's your problem. Try therapy.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Prevent unwanted children.

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That's a laughable notion here in USA. The Republican Party is hellbent on reducing women's rights and limiting their ability to get birth control. Also, Conservatives are against abortion and have tried to reverse Roe v. Wade. Most "unwanted" children are born into families who do not have the funds or the competence to raise a child in modern society.

Gay couples have been great for kids who get left behind, and stuck in foster care. People argue that it's bad for the adopted child to be with a gay couple because it causes bullying in school. Maybe if other brats in school learned how to be more accepting, then that wouldn't be an issue.

My bad Gloomy. Was posting on Blackberry waiting recovery with a puncture late last night. My first reply was not to you but Ben.

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

People argue that it's bad for the adopted child to be with a gay couple because it causes bullying in school. Maybe if other brats in school learned how to be more accepting, then that wouldn't be an issue.

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This is one of the worst arguments of all. It's like saying that someone who's the subject of a racist attack is to blame because of their skin colour.

Oh, and many of those who would deploy this argument against gay adoption are also the sort of individuals who go on about the need for personal responsibility...