Your opinion on 'Drag Reduction System'

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Originally Posted by Sonic

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Indeed, a lot of the drivers were utilizing the systems to get closer into 12, to then make the move into 1.

I can't help but think that all these moaners about the DRS would've hated the 'good old days'. Especially at Monza and the great slipstream battles. Positions could change twice in a straight such was the speed advantage of being behind.

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And that is what we want. Natural overtaking possibilities by limiting the aero packages of cars, not false overtaking created by a system like DRS. DRS is a gimmick - that works to a degree - but is still a gimmick. I prefer the excitement that Pirelli has created with regards to overtaking.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I prefer the excitement that Pirelli has created with regards to overtaking.

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I agree, but the two tyres that get used at each race need to reward a driver depending on strategy.

While a bit slower, the harder tyre needs to last considerably longer, and conversely the soft tyre should have the speed, but not the longevity.....

That I guess is the Holy Grail!

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I agree, but the two tyres that get used at each race need to reward a driver depending on strategy.

While a bit slower, the harder tyre needs to last considerably longer, and conversely the soft tyre should have the speed, but not the longevity.....

That I guess is the Holy Grail!

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This is true. If the prime tyre lasted longer then Button might have been able to challenge for 3rd place with a 2 stop strategy against the others doing 4 stops

But 555 you will never, EVER get back to those pre 1971 days.

It should b e called "DPS" , for "Discount Passing System" .
Or , perhaps "SDS" , for "Sitting Duck System" .

Drivers knew they were done , and moved aside for cars passing , as if they were blue flagged .

I was left cold , in a race with lots of overtaking .

The DRS , in a word , sucks .

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Originally Posted by Sonic

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Indeed, a lot of the drivers were utilizing the systems to get closer into 12, to then make the move into 1.

I can't help but think that all these moaners about the DRS would've hated the 'good old days'. Especially at Monza and the great slipstream battles. Positions could change twice in a straight such was the speed advantage of being behind.

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I don't think the DRS will survive in F1 but the "one second gap" ruling might.

If the "one second gap" becomes the permanent trigger for options being available to a driver then they might consider traction control or similar to be enabled for a trailing car.

These driver aids might assist a following car to grab the slipstream earlier in the straight whilst still allowing the lead car to defend its lead.

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Originally Posted by eu

Anyway, MS thinks it's mega super dooper idea. What about that Ioan?

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I still think it's crap.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

That's the point about DRS. A driver can't defend against it. A great pass isn't just the pass itself, it's the set up before and securing it after, but with DRS the driver presses the button, overtakes, and that's it. Another overtake into the record books, which is what we all want isn't it? :dozey:

I can't remember which driver it was (Alonso maybe) but he made a valid point about the tyres being more of a factor in the "excitement" than DRS. The disparity of performance, and so lap times, make drivers a "sitting duck" (according to Webber) and DRS just makes it even easier.

I've never argued that F1 needs more overtaking. It needs more racing. The current cars are not designed to race each other, they're designed to run in clean air and DRS does nothing to fix that problem.

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Right on it. :up:

I guess that now that they scrapped the return of ground effects we can slowly think about doing something else every other Sunday.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Right on it. :up:

I guess that now that they scrapped the return of ground effects we can slowly think about doing something else every other Sunday.

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Don't loose the faith brother. Even bad F1 (which I personally don't think this is) is a million times better than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

Don't loose the faith brother. Even bad F1 (which I personally don't think this is) is a million times better than anything else.

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Bad F1 is not even half as good as ALMS, Le Mans or ILMC. It's about on par with FIA GT where they use weight penalties for those who are faster.