F1 2010: Testing sessions thread

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Originally Posted by jens

Oh, I can see explanations/excuses being lined up already to devalue Vettel's future success (like we saw with Button's title last year). If Vettel wins 2010 WDC, then it will be only because an average driver happened to have a dominant car. :dozey:

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Whereas whenever a Ferrari or McLaren win a title, its always "because they are a fabulous team with a great pedigree"

Last season proved that just because you have a great team, a gigantic budget and a glorious history does not always guarantee that you will build and race the best cars, last year's Ferrari for instance was probably the worst i've seen in nearly 2 decades.

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Originally Posted by jens

Oh, I can see explanations/excuses being lined up already to devalue Vettel's future success (like we saw with Button's title last year). If Vettel wins 2010 WDC, then it will be only because an average driver happened to have a dominant car. :dozey:

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In terms of raw speed Vettel is better than Button. He is talented but needs refining. Similar to Hamilton in that he compromises himself by pushing too hard.

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Originally Posted by jens

Oh, I can see explanations/excuses being lined up already to devalue Vettel's future success (like we saw with Button's title last year). If Vettel wins 2010 WDC, then it will be only because an average driver happened to have a dominant car. :dozey:

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Of course! This is a fan forum!

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Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

last year's Ferrari for instance was probably the worst i've seen in nearly 2 decades.

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Where were you in 2005 :?: That car was a dog :down:

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Originally Posted by f1indiablog

Force India LIvery has been launched!!http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_okcyx1ajmR...00-h/VJMO3.jpg

http://www.f1indiablog.in/2010/02/fo...ger-vjmo3.html

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lol calm down man
I see you posting this in several threads.
We are all F1 fans and don't worry, somehow we will all manage to see the pics

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Where were you in 2005 :?: That car was a dog :down:

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More tyre related than car methinks. Bridgestone got it very wrong that year...... and Ferrari was their only team, apart from the backmarkers they had on their books also.......

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Originally Posted by F1boat

You know, year after year I heard how irrelevant testing is and in the end it proves to be very useful, if you like to make predictions.
Several examples:
Last year everybody thought that Brawn are hunting for sponsors. But they were for real.
In 2005, everybody thought that there is no way for Renault and McLaren-Mercedes to suddenly overcome the mighty Ferrari. But they did.
A year before, in 2004, Ferrari were one second ahead of Williams and McLaren and guess what - they really owned them!
And between 2006 and 2008 the testing were with mixed results - and the championships were real close! So while it's a bit premature to make predictions based on one test, to say that tests are meaningless is to me incorrect.

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its a fair point.
While I don't put much stock in testing times per say, I do not dismiss them summarily either. It is more than just the times to me. it is also how the cars behave and if they seem quick or not. I think mclaren were playing it conservative during this first test and I do think Ferrari were on lighter fuel loads. But I also think the Ferrari seems well balanced and fairly quick around a more technical track. I also believe the macs will be right there. Sauber looks like they were on a few glory runs, but for those few days, they were consistently quick and had good times compared to the others, even on the longer runs. I do believe renault and Williams need much more work done on their cars, and probably benefited the most from these early tests to correct what seems like some obvious issues with their cars.

Testing is a good way to continue the development and preparation of each car, but one can also take a few things away from them as well.

Another small point would also be the mind games teams might play on each other during testing.

Is there any news or whispers floating around on KERS? Will any team sneak it into their package?
Im just crossing my fingers a team does include it :)

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Originally Posted by callum122

Is there any news or whispers floating around on KERS? Will any team sneak it into their package?
Im just crossing my fingers a team does include it :)

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Well, Toyota have recalled all their Prius for brake modifications. Maybe that's a clue.