Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Phil Macereth left McLaren for Renault in 2006 with the plans and documentation for suspension, fuel system, mass damper and gearing.

These were then used within Renault and came to light when a quite junour ex-Renault employee joined McLaren about a year later and admitted to knowing all about the McLaren data. Phil himself when joining Renault went to work in their Fuel department where he had absolutly no knowledge apart from what he stole.

Phil admitted sharing the information with key engineering staff but they all stated that the design of their car was not influenced by the stolen data.

Charlie Whiting popped down one day and spoke to them and apparently accepted their word.

Result. $100m fine..... Sorry, wrong team. No penalty. I think Phil still works ther.

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If those be the facts then it does seem a bit stoopid.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

So glad you cleared that up! :laugh:

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Well there are strange people on this forum with strange beliefs so I think it pays to be explicit with what you're saying etc etc :p

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Phil Macereth left McLaren for Renault in 2006 with the plans and documentation for suspension, fuel system, mass damper and gearing.

These were then used within Renault and came to light when a quite junour ex-Renault employee joined McLaren about a year later and admitted to knowing all about the McLaren data. Phil himself when joining Renault went to work in their Fuel department where he had absolutly no knowledge apart from what he stole.

Phil admitted sharing the information with key engineering staff but they all stated that the design of their car was not influenced by the stolen data.

Charlie Whiting popped down one day and spoke to them and apparently accepted their word.

Result. $100m fine..... Sorry, wrong team. No penalty. I think Phil still works ther.

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Perhaps the team chose to exercise 'option 13' to escape punishment - again..... ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

If those be the facts then it does seem a bit stoopid.

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Dems da facts alright....

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I agree that these people are not all bad, but I prefer to concentrate on personal qualities when it comes to respecting such people, and there is just too much about these individuals that I dislike. In relation to Briatore, how many other people do you respect who, I repeat, were sentenced to jail at one point?

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I am not sure, I respect many people, writers, actors, musicians, sportsmen, even some politicians and I do not follow closely their whole career. But I don't think that this matter. I said why I respect Flav. His time in jail in no way diminished my respect to him.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Mandela went to jail. Perhaps it would be better if we looked at the conviction, rather than the jail bit....?

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Fair point, though everything one reads about Briatore's background indicates that he wasn't the victim of a great miscarriage of justice.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Fair point, though everything one reads about Briatore's background indicates that he wasn't the victim of a great miscarriage of justice.

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Yeah but Flab wasn't part of a terrorist organisation :)

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Charlie Whiting popped down one day and spoke to them and apparently accepted their word.

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What, Whitebait found the Renault factory on his own......?

.......without help?


......are you sure?

;)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

What, Whitebait found the Renault factory on his own......?

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Assuming it was the Renault factory he ended up in? :crazy: :p

http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2391

This article explains the reason for the jail sentence, among other little gems....