Rumored 2009 IC Schedule

Guess we disagree.....IYO.

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Originally Posted by indycool

Guess we disagree.....IYO.

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After going around in circles for over ten years with some of these guys that is probably the best response you can give.

That, or something I've tried recently, the "Ignore" feature. For example;

"This message is hidden because Ken is on your ignore list. "

Works as well as betting my head on the wall. : )

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Originally Posted by downtowndeco

After going around in circles for over ten years with some of these guys that is probably the best response you can give.

That, or something I've tried recently, the "Ignore" feature. For example;

"This message is hidden because Ken is on your ignore list. "

Works as well as betting my head on the wall. : )

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cool.... at least one side of our disagreements won't boil to ' at least there not BK'.....

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Originally Posted by indycool

Ken, Gary has said it best. The scenario has changed from what was argued about for 12 years. It is informative of your agenda when you start bringing up past history about the IRL and do not place it in the context of the situation at the time.

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Current pole at TF is running at 87% believe the current IRL is closer to CARTII than 'the Vision'

so tell me again how mimicking a BK racing series is a good thing?

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Originally Posted by Ken

cool.... at least one side of our disagreements won't boil to ' at least there not BK'.....

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Ken, I have to admire you.

At the former CCWS sites you always get blasted as a "fence sitter", and at IRL sites you get blasted as a CCWS sympathizer. While I consider Tony George to be, um, uh, lets just say a uh, less than desirable, um, influence on the sport, I've felt you have always been even-handed in where you put your criticism.

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Originally Posted by Miatanut

Ken, I have to admire you.

At the former CCWS sites you always get blasted as a "fence sitter", and at IRL sites you get blasted as a CCWS sympathizer. While I consider Tony George to be, um, uh, lets just say a uh, less than desirable, um, influence on the sport, I've felt you have always been even-handed in where you put your criticism.

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it's pretty funny.... way back when I was firmly on the CC side of things...


then when it became clear that Champcar wasn't the CART I had fallen in Love I was just about the first to advocate "MERGER"....

and that lead to my being counted down at more than one Pro-CC site....

and of coarse the Irlistas simply said "screw CC and Merger, we don't need anything CC as it brings nothing to the table'....

and here we are with one defunct series.....a series it appears needed CC teams and drivers, venues, promotors, turbos, option tires, standing starts,
fans, ......

whats next Push to Pass and an exciteing new cable television partner?....I guess so


what a tangled web AOWR has weaved

i'm not sure what the argument is. We needed 1 series for open wheel racing to be successful. We need ovals, along with road, and streets, and a large field of talented drivers. We need a series that actually gets paid to be on tv. The merger solved all that. Sure, it's still a work in progress. But to say that the IRL was the wrong side to win, simply bec it is bringing over some of the good ideas from CC, is a pretty sad way to look at it.

whose argueing?

Back to the 2009 schedule and future schedules - after watching today's races (F-1, Grand-Am, ALMS and IRL) - the IRL can loose Sonoma just fine - I always thought the track was a snoozer - but what really drove it home was watching both the Grand-AM and IRL cars and then contrasting them with the ALMS cars at Mosport - the track at Mosport just made the cars look good - Sonoma did not....

Im waiting for the actions in St.Petersburg, it'll always a very good location and the rally there adds more excitement