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Patrik Flodin has broken his collarbone a few weeks ago and dosent start in Tour de Course.
http://www.bilsport.se/news.php?id=101917
Ford drivers are damned, they break bones one after another :vader: Maybe he shouldnt have changed the car :rolleyes:
Marty McCormack has been drafted in for Corsica to replace FlodinQuote:
Originally Posted by MTA
Fantastic news, cant wait to see how he gets on!
Money talks bull**** walks.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
one question to our friends from russia.
is there any rally or motorsport event in the end of may near to moscow?
;-)
thank you
South Africa will be included in the 2013 calendar instead of NZ or Greece. Both of them will be out if Brazil also joins the WRC. Doubts about Italian event: Rali de Portugal mantém se no calendário do WRC - Autosport.ptQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
I have spoken to a Russian rally man, and can highly agree with him that the rallies there aren't so well organised. The roads to get to stages aren't very well layed out or safe for spectators.Quote:
Originally Posted by misiuwolf
That might explain a lot. My best friend is Russian, and I have never been more terrified than when I am in her car while she is driving.
South Africa could be absolutely amazing. Looking forward to it.
So if Brazil joins we could have a 10 round calendar? I hope this does not happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
Isn't the RSA still a bit unstable for a WRC event? Things got pretty hot in Kenya during the 2002 event...
I'm interpreting this as meaning you're against the idea of South Africa or Brazil joining the calendar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
If so, would you care to explain why you feel that way? I've never understood this aversion to the calendar expanding.
No, it means that the number of events will remain set at 13, and any new event will replace an existing one. South Africa would replace New Zealand or Greece. If South Africa and Brazil both join the calendar, they will replace New Zealand and Greece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
In order for the calendar to be scaled back to 10 rounds, three existing rallies would need to be cut before South Africa or Brazil could join. And as far as I know, there are no plans for this. The manufacturers seem pretty happy with the number of rounds, and the FIA is pushing for longer overall rallies. I think that's the change we're most likely to see in 2013, which I think can only be a good thing. Now they just need to get rid of the practice of repeating stages. A rally should be ~20 unique stages run once, not ten stages run twice.
That rally in Kenya was a decade ago, and in a totally different country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Ahh - Can't believe there could be no Aus or NZ round! Sucks big time for us in the Oceania region
[quote="Prisoner Monkeys"]I'm interpreting this as meaning you're against the idea of South Africa or Brazil joining the calendar.
If so, would you care to explain why you feel that way? I've never understood this aversion to the calendar expanding.
Am not against any country hosting the rally,just what has South africa got to offer the wrc more than kenya apart from lots of money?Most of the rally stages are held in private ranches or farmlands with little or no access to the locals as seen in most South africa championship rallies :D
Interest. I haven't heard anything from anyone in Kenya saying "we need to be a part of the WRC again". The South Africans are interested in being a part of the WRC. The Kenyans aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
I'd say Greece is more likely to go. Financially, they're in serious trouble. And the organisers in Coffs Harbour have said that they would be interested in seeing Rally Australia return to a yearly round.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Likewise, Jean Todt has said he doesn't see much differentiating France and Germany. Strasbourg and Trier aren't that far from on another, and both rallies are tarmac events. Sure, there are nuances in the surfaces, but it might be easier to just hold one of them. Unless they can get Rally France back to Corsica.
It's also entirely plausible that the manufacturers might be okay with 14 rounds instead of 13. It would give them one extra round to catch Loeb (if he is still rallying next year) ...
I guess that's what the candidate events are for. To test their suitability.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
It largely depends on where the money for the rally is coming from. But with Greece needing bail-outs from Germany, there is likely to be a lot of political pressure for fiscal responsibility, which will inevitably lead to the question of "Do we really need the rally?".Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Off course we need the rally. The economic crisis doesn't mean that we should stop doing historical events like the Acropolis Rally (58 years of history) , the Classic Marathon etc... With these events, we boost our economy (tourism). The problem for us is not the Acropolis Rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
Unfortunatelly it is bound to happen....
one of the major sponsors apart from casino loutraki is also OPAP which are basically money from the state (its our national lottery fund) ...so if the founding is cut completely i think we are out (already this year the money they give are limited and maybe that is one of the reasons the organiser is looking for volunteers apart from the payed marshals).
Mate, you need to be enlightened a bit. For starters, you don't seem to have watched a SA championship event in recent times, otherwise you'd have never said it was not accessible. Unless you are referring to the last bid event in about 2007 in which case you are dead right, that was run in a terrible area never used for our rallies because the FIA demanded a "African" feel to the event, which meant running around mud huts in rural areas. That is not the case this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
This time the event will be based on the recent Total Rally held in March this year and I can tell you having spectated there that there were thousands of spectactors. The event will have sugarcane (which has very slippery ball-bearing type roads like in Australia) and forest stages. There is a different organising team involved this time and it's been done right. Seppo Harjanne has already been out to look at the event, as stated in the article, in fact my father spent the day with him as part of the organising team, which pissed me off cos I could have met Seppo myself! Michelle Mouton is due out soon also to look at stuff.
As for others saying experience of WRC events is lacking, true but we all have to start somewhere and a lot of overseas input has been received. Yes the event will be based in Durban again like the last candidate event but the stages used will be nowhere near the same area and massively improved quality and spectator access.
I cannot imagine the wrc without rally acropolis.It will be very bad and for the greek fans and for the foreigner fans(espessially for fans from central europe that they use to combine rally and vacations)
2 years ago we were also out... this time looks we are out for good...Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
Who can blame them if they kick us out ??
History is fine and everything but you cannot base any kind of relationship in romance alone...the romance fades sooner or later and then you have to offer some things to get some back...
Last year we proved that we tried as much as we could. We offered things like night stage, ceremonial start under the Acropolis, very nice stages, no cancellation. The organisation made a big effort. However, if there are no sponsors and we tell FIA that we are not capable to do the rally due to high cost, then it's another story.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
well when 99% of private companies and businesses all these years were sustained because of public money... it is normal they are not going to be any sponsors... Greece is a scorched earth and we all took part in this.
This pairing was already used in IRC but from I heard the Brazilian event was quite an organization disaster.
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Here’s a video from Total rally 2012 Total Rally March 2012 - YouTube and from 2011 (more action compared to 2012 video) Total Tour Natal Rally Overview 2011 - YouTube and some videos from other South African rally championship 2011.
Sasol Rally
Sasol Rally Mpumalang Nelspruit Overview - YouTube
HMC National Rally
Toyota Gauteng Rally 10-11 June 2011 Day .1. - YouTube
Toyota Gauteng Rally 10-11 June 2011 - Day 2 - YouTube
Toyota Dealer Rally Gauteng
Toyota Gauteng Rally 10-11 June 2011 Day .1. - YouTube
Toyota Gauteng Rally 10-11 June 2011 - Day 2 - YouTube
Garden Route National Rally
Garden Route National Rally - Day .1. - YouTube
Garden Route National Rally - George/Knysna Day.2. - YouTube
And now I switch to ice hockey.
I worked as the timing officer for IRC in Brazil in 2009 and 2010 and I can say the timings were the unique part that worked fine during the whole events. Rain, time delays, section time changes are samples of events that turned the rounds a mess. The Brazilian organizers are not professionals, most (if not all) of them run and organize Rally events as a side-activity. Although, I'm sure that if we "import" organizers from well-established events, Brazil would be able to host a very decent round of the WRC (and I would sure be there to either work/watch).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Rumours about Ogier abandoning VW's wrc programme? Who starts all of these BS rumours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
Thank You for insider info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jajá
I don't post on the forums much although this topic was something I had to. I have read replies about the love and romance of the acropolis rally and it's so very true. It's a shame and we all know money talks in WRC now, but loosing events like Acropolis is detrimental to the sport I feel.
It's a shame we are no longer in places like SanRemo (on tarmac) and visiting Kenya (even every 2nd year) and if the Acropolis was to go then it's another notch in the coffin. There are some rounds that just shouldn't be bumped out and I really believe Acropolis is one of them, for the sake of the WRC it should remain one way or another.
France should be in Corsica, San Remo instead of Sardinia and Kenya instead of ADAC Germany.
I was told by someone at the Somerset Stages rally that VW are to pull the plug on the programme at the next major board meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
I dont believe it myself!
And what was his source? There was an article on the internet from a French journalist claiming the same.
However, that article was published on april 1st, so I don't believe it either (imagine the horror!).
Agree, the Alscace event is very close to Trier and Deutschland - do we need 2 similar Tarmac events? Same with Sardinia - another dry, dusty Mediterranean event. Instead of thinking about the money, think about the bigger picture, i;e the sport Corsica/Sanremo are 'Classic' events, same with the Acropolis...the sport needs these iconic events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
the question still remains.. who is going to pay for these iconic events to stay in the sport ??Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
You can add me to the dont believe list!Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
Please, dont say that, remember who took their first WRC win on april 1st? :D We all thought that was april fools at first!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear