I thought it was BMW who used the old Hyundai strategy... But for sure, success is inevitable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
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I thought it was BMW who used the old Hyundai strategy... But for sure, success is inevitable...Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
the guy has really problem...
Ogier: "On verra qui de Hirvonen ou de moi avait raison" - Auto Moto - Sports.fr
its better to explain why Mikkelsen was so slow suddenly at last day in Sweden,or why he choosed to start without priority at last rallies.
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McKlein Photography @McKlein_Rally Henri Toivonen will be the subject of McKlein's next book, to be published in August 2012.
He's chosen the day for the announcement...
WILSON NOT HAPPY WITH TANAK Wilson disappointed with Tanak's performance on Rally Argentina - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
not happy with Tanak in his first wrc rallies,but happy with Jari?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
MW not happy (ok, he is right Tanak can not stay on the road) -Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
But more generally, who would be the dream driver for him (out of Loeb)? The works team drivers doing the same than Tanak with 5-10 year experience,
The consistency drivers like Hirvonen just left the team, Sordo not signed 2 years ago.....
Ogier not signed but talked with them.
My feeling a bit that he would like to have top driversd but in the same time a driver who is cheap maybe pay for a seat.
The article says he spoke with him and made it clear his job is to finish...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I believe we can all expect a "New 5 Year Plan" to be announced.....because if Tanak had a 5 Year Plan, then finishing in 15th or 12 for 5-7 years would never draw a comment..
Or maybe Tanak could make some jerk-kanha videos and be a You-tube hero, then finishing 12th is OK.
I know I'm dreaming out loud, but why not with ProDrive? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
Do you know if he had said the same to Jari and Petter?Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Ok was his fault,and he had to finish,as nobody asked him to push and win,but at his 4th rally at wrc you can t ask to much.Neuville is at same situation, but Yves didnt make such an interview.To put extra stress this time in not going to help imho.
Malcolm have to be more sensible about his interviews and more fair.Jari according to Malcolm was the man who will beat Loeb,but after the 4exits from 5 rallies while he has 100 wrc starts didn t see such a comment...
If he's disappointed with Tanak, I don't know what he would say about Matthew if he weren't his son...Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
If he wasnt his son he wouldnt have driven anything bigger than a wheelbarrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
But Malcolm is right to be furious about Tanak in whom he invests lots of money. He doesnt have pressure for results and still crashes several times a day.
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Originally Posted by dimviii
I was making more a joke on Wilson than anything.... specifically the "gifting' of a WRC car and years of support to his son, which while the norm in motorsports, the combination of the publicised "5 Year Plan" and the often embarrassing reults never propted a public scolding from Papa-son.
Malcolm's management all these years sucks.Why do you expect something better in his interviews???The same brain desides and for the management and for the interviews!!!
aha didnt get the irony at your first post. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Tanak is another Wilson jr.
No. Tanak has the speed , maybe not like Latvala but definitelly better than slowson. reliability to be improved. Time will tellQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Estonian guys, plz tells us - who pay for Tanak? Whose money he use?
The fact that Tanaka has speed, he proved in Finland, ask Hänninen. But maybe he has the same problem as JML, the only way he knows how to run is flat out.
He's contracted with M-Sport, so I guess it's Malcolm's money :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsara Fan
Yes but he is a novice and at least there's a hope that he can change himself. JML and PS are lost cause, still driving like teenagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
SWRC is different from WRC. Once when they face Loeb, hands start to shake... :D
Oh he has the speed but me thinks he is just plain stupid. If he continues to crashin' habits, then for sure he's not going to be in M-Sport for longQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
Wow! And he still in team? After loosing title in 2011 (because of crashes) and crashcrashcrash in 2012?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I think Malcolm is stupid in the way he acts. He should say anything he wants to Ott in private but I really fail to see how giving interviews to big established magazine like auto sport saying the driver did crap is going to help things. He is a very fast driver and anyone who was competed on a gravel rally at even three quarter the speed he goes can tell it will be risky.
Is there any confirmation on when matthew wilson is back, I think there is maybe a slight chance the injury has now turned out to be a convenient money saver even though that wasnt the original intention.
It is early for tanak... but here you can see the difference between teams..
Citroen has Neuville doing a crap year with crash after crash yet they do not say anything...they let the guy drive and after the season ends the evaluation comes....
in ford the team manager lost his patience with a driver who at least has potential speedwise, while he never said anything about his useless son...
maybe that is why Citroen are stomping all over ford with the manufacturer title year after year, and Loeb has 9 titles while the ford kids struggle all these years and invent stupid things to celebrate like most consecutive finishes, best motorhome of service and best looking service tent...
I do not think you should underestimate how hard it is dealing with different types of gravel in different continents. Not to mention under different weather conditions. That's the reason why M.W. ask him to get to the finish, first and foremost.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
But as I wrote earlier, you've just learned to handle a rally car driving flat out, to learn new surfaces in combination to be more consistent, yes it can be very difficult.
What happens to Tanaka, is similar to the first year to PS at Ford.
We're glad that Ogier didn't have different types of gravel problems. First WRC event and immediately in the lead. :D
As I have mentioned Previously, drivers like Ogier, one in a million. But others can learn too, so do not be too sure that no one catch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
It's all the same for Ogier-gravel/tarmac. Great driver, less motivated when not in WRC machinery but next year will be great.
Do you remember that he was off the road a few stages later? Do you remember who was second behind him? It was Ostberg :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Do you remember what happened next? 5 points in next 6 rallies. There were 12 events in 2009 and Ogier finished only 6 of them in the points.
Every beginning is difficult.
It says July 14th 2011.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
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Originally Posted by dimviii
One of the Finns here said I am honorary Finn because like them, Nothing I say is ever 100% serious, and nothing is ever 100% joking...
Most everything I write here is mostly joking..
But not fully.
Nafpaktos hit the nail on the head
Yes I think did Ogier not go bit mad in first wrc car outing in rac rally with some ice but then roll out. He was maybe leading but not for long.
Ok argentina is expensive rally long way from UK and tanak told to go medium speed but people must understand his medium speed would probably win a national rally quite easily maybe? If you want slow speed yes sure you will 100% finish the rally but maybe 10 or 12 minutes back. Do I read it correct that maybe Malcolm even blames him for puncture which he attains on a pretty rough rally. That could happen to any person. I still believe this is a bad way for Malcolm to gain column space in a big motorsport news site / magazine. I agree with NOT in how Citroen are progressing there matters.
Is Hennings season now finished does anybody know?
He's in the entry list for Acropolis. This time it looks like he'll start the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCS14
That's not the full story though. Neuville has shown great pace in between his crashes, and challenging for stage wins etc. Tanak has been nowhere in regards to pace, and shown much less potential than Thierry in my opinion. Citroen didn't want him to necessarily get great results this year, but wanted to see if he's got the speed to challenge at the top in the future, and so far it looks like he does. Tanak? Not so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You joined since 2000, don't feed the troll, you know who they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by amilk
Is it in a Go Fast car? It doesn't specify on the entry list I have seenQuote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
Neuville was good in keeping lead of 10 minutes infront of Solberg, but also slower on almost every stage by at least 10 seconds. :D
You must be a Kiwi.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa