Guys, lets be somewhat positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Aslong as there are a few engineers with as much passion as the competitors and spectators, something will be made to appeal us enthusiasts.
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Guys, lets be somewhat positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Aslong as there are a few engineers with as much passion as the competitors and spectators, something will be made to appeal us enthusiasts.
That's fine in theory. Who is going to pay for this - and appeal to enthusiasts? Rallying, and WRC is reliant on the manufacturers? Some series can run without much manufacturer involvement - but not rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Debatable, the ERC is a good example of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
You have to differentiate between two things. Yes, the sport can continue on the enthusiastic basis but in that case it will become a minor curiosity like horse races instead of a global show run by one of the biggest and richest corporations for their marketing purposes (as it has been for past decades).Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
No, all ERC cars have been developed and homologated by manufacturers who are either directly or indirectly involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
And they are mostly bought and runned with private funds. Because obviously there is some sort of economic gain to be had with those sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Those sales are possible becuase of the marketing value of the championship which is largely created by the manufacturers. When they leave the public interest will go down and so will the total sum of money circulating in the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
If starting from square one WITHOUT FIA and have own series, I could think manufacturers will have another look. Rallying do not depend on FIA or manufacturers. If new rules allow some sort of cars (maybe even hybrids) it´s possible to start all over again.
I think at least the fan base, will be there, to begin with.
The first link is pro EV but the second it isn’t; they mostly quote German or French automotive sources (VDA, CCFA). The EU official document, with 3 options for future emissions standards (only option 1 seems possible for ICEs to cope), can be seen here: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better...ries-and-busesQuote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
For sure we’re free to remain positive, but one must admit that EVs lobby managed to establish a politically correct view on EVs among the general public and the politicians won’t dare to question it, even if they should.
Erm, those are cars originally built by manufacturers, and homologated for competition. You can't run a 'home built' special in FiA series......Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
F1, WEC, etc could in theory run without manufacturers. LMP2 has had a Gibson engine for all cars, and an off the peg chassis by several motorsport constructors. Rallying needs manufacturers - unless there is a drastic change from the FiA; and then who finances any venture?
Rallying never really needed manufacturers, they are only needed because of the stupid homologation fia-cashcow rules.
Everyone should be able to build and drive a car as long as its build according to the rules, just like in wrx or f1 or dakar or lemans or..
The forced need for manufacturers aproval has been holding the sport back for many years now. Without that rule, we could have seen many private firms operating their own cars, just like ik most other motorsports.