Mobile phones & tablets thread

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Originally Posted by henners88

This thread just repeats! Has Samsung actually invented anything in this field, have any of them? They all feed off each other! lol Samsung only added voice software because Apple did and Apple have copied many things off the likes of HTC too. Circular motions, circular motions.

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Agree. The thing is, I can't remember who put the first colour screen on a phone, but everyone did it afterwards. Were they cheap copycats and should they have come up with something different? Not really. Like I said if someone makes some technology which makes for faster wireless communication then they should be allowed to protect it. Invent a different way of swiping your finger to unlock your phone? Personally I don't feel that should be protected.....

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Read the article. It might help.

The shape and look of Apple products is not a technology. It isn't a patenting issue.

Its a trademarking issue.

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Patent USD504889 - Electronic device - Google Patents apology accepted btw :)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Even I didn't have time to read all of that. Are you seriously comparing the development of life saving drugs to slide to unlock? :dozey:

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Says the guy who managed to slide in a Holocaust reference when discussing Apple ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

You simply shouldn't be able to patent the most basic of things like a button sliding for a certain purpose or the general shape of an object, especially when that shape is rectangular with rounded corners. This article -> Apple v. Samsung: The Rights To Rectangles - Forbes describes it well in that some things such as the rectangular shape of a phone are so intrinsic to innovation as to make them un-patentable. It's not like Apple even invented something that didn't exist. As I've pointed out MANY times and you seem to ignore each time, the LG Prada pre-dates the iPhone by months and has the same rectangular design with rounded corners on a touchscreen smartphone......... Would a drug company ever be able to get a patent on a drug that another company developed and had on the market for months or years? Should they be able to get that patent?

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You're confusing trademarking with patenting again.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Says the guy who managed to slide in a Holocaust reference when discussing Apple ;)



You're confusing trademarking with patenting again.

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Hilarious, Malbec, come back when you understand the facts of the story -> Patent USD504889 - Electronic device - Google Patents Apology accepted when it comes btw......

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Says the guy who managed to slide in a Holocaust reference when discussing Apple ;)

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Says the man who refuses to acknowledge facts :) BTW This is a 2nd time I've used a holocaust reference on a forum today and the other wasn't in reference to Apple, it's just a good basis for an analogy because you can in no way justify the killing of Jews.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Patent USD504889 - Electronic device - Google Patents apology accepted btw :)

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Sigh...

I admit that some countries refer to trademarking licencing as being patents which does nothing to clarify issues. However the legal issues are entirely different.

As I said, read the article. Its pretty fair and very illuminating.

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Originally Posted by Malbec

Sigh...

I admit that some countries refer to trademarking licencing as being patents which does nothing to clarify issues. However the legal issues are entirely different.

As I said, read the article. Its pretty fair and very illuminating.

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So you think that Apple should be able to patent things which aren't actually patents etc etc etc etc etc :dozey: They have a patent for a rectangular device with rounded corners. That be fact and you be trying to ignore that fact for some inexplicable reason.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Agree. The thing is, I can't remember who put the first colour screen on a phone, but everyone did it afterwards. Were they cheap copycats and should they have come up with something different? Not really. Like I said if someone makes some technology which makes for faster wireless communication then they should be allowed to protect it. Invent a different way of swiping your finger to unlock your phone? Personally I don't feel that should be protected.....

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How do you feel about developing a technology that becomes part of a globally recognised standard (like wi-fi, bluetooth) then refusing to allow your competitors to use your technology, effectively blocking their usage of that standard? Is that acceptable?

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Originally Posted by henners88

Taking a technology from one industry and applying it to a new product is a form of innovation because its a totally different application. If it was protected fully then they wouldn't have been able to use it.


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I think it is innovative, but it's not inventive and it's inventions that should be covered by patents and not innovation.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

So you think that Apple should be able to patent things which aren't actually patents etc etc etc etc etc :dozey: They have a patent for a rectangular device with rounded corners. That be fact and you be trying to ignore that fact for some inexplicable reason.

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Here. Design patents, trademarking and how it differs from technology patents.

Groklaw - A Very Short Primer on Design Patents and Trade Dress (Apple v. Samsung) by Michael Risch

Note that I'm not defending Apple. I think the recent UK court's decision to force Apple to publicly acknowledge Samsung WASN'T copying is great. It raises the cost of entry for such legal cases and punishes Apple for taking the mickey by taking action in two EU states at once when it is not allowed to do so.

However I do think that actually trying to UNDERSTAND what is going on is pretty important. It isn't as simple as you and some of your friends try to portray.