Ben Constanduros
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Good morning from @wrcsafarirally
- heading for the Power Stage!
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Ben Constanduros
@BenConsty
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5h
Good morning from @wrcsafarirally
- heading for the Power Stage!
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Ogier pushing now for lead
Who is willing to risk and push on PS?
Evans for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
That´s it folks!
In my opinion, if Neuville and Adamo are removed from Hyundai, things will improve a lot. The atmosphere will become positive and things will go up ....Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Well Katsuta did try, thumbs up for him.
On the other hand before Adamo came, they didn't win a single title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ds3
Correlation doesn't mean causation.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
True, but while 2019 manu title was both due to driver rotation and due to Meeke and Latvala crashing, 2020 title was clearly due to 3rd driver rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Integrale
The drivers have pushed the engineers to make the Hyundai faster, more competitive with the Toyota, and it appears from the outside to have come at the cost of some reliability. I guess for them it’s a good thing next year is a whole new car….
His last full season, quite sure ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I don't know if you can pinpoint a title to a single variable. But you have a valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I just find Adamo's statements and behaviour questionable. For example, after Sordo's crash here, he said something along the lines of Sordo not following the plan they had. If I were Sordo, I'd be fuming. You're the team boss. Just like a coach does in football, you protect your team. If my position is questioned in the media after every mistake, I will make more mistakes because I'm afraid. (Sordo's off wasn't even a mistake.)
I don't know the guy of course, but he seems to have some narcissistic characteristics. Also in interviews. He's a born winner, that's for sure. But when things aren't going his way, he becomes very negative and cynical. The interview about the spark plugs on Friday... He just attacked Julian Porter in that interview in a passive aggressive way. What does Hyundai get out of that?
Okay, some people need that kind of character to get the best out of themselves. For other people it's the exact opposite, they need trust (like Makinen did). I think a team boss should have the people skills to know what each person needs. And especially, protect your team. You win and lose together. That's why I don't really like the guy. People tend to do their very best just because they want to do their very best, not because someone tells them to. The team boss has to create the circumstances where people are able to do their very best.
Ogier is a genius. It is unbelievable how he finds always a way to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
Yeah I agree with what you write about Adamo. Especially the first reactions after/during a rally can't be good for the drivers and for the team atmosphere.
He says himself he wants to do something at once. It seems he often doesn't think about the consequences this has for longer term than exactly that moment.
But was Neuville's pace too fast like most of us were saying on saturday?
Just one more parameter to take in account - I think Adamo's interviews are a bit "role play" and personally I think he is over-play that role. Some interviews and answers are ridiculous, but it's anyway question of taste - some may like it. Most likely he is completely different characters when there is in-team discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Integrale
The same way - watch how other drivers are describe Tänak (previously Ostberg in All-Live for example), it's a bit different description compared to "stage end interview Tänak".
Korea will most likely can Adamo end of this year unless he has a solid contract.
He delivered without mistakes, nothing to say against that. So far there is no connection between "driving too fast" and retirement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
I don't agree. On this very stage where he retired he seemingly made no mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
But on Friday he got 3 punctures in one loop, including driving on the rim at the rear of the car (opposite side than the one that broke).
Gutted for Neuville. This would have put him back in the championship hunt, but now it's over. 8th title for the champ.
Question was about Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
When he kicks drivers from next rally it certainly isn't "role play" (Loeb Monte 2020, Mikkelsen Chile 2019, same with Solberg "kicked up" for Arctic this year after bad team result at Monte).Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Similarly there are published accounts about long "wash downs" after rallies (ex. Mexico last year).
Ironic isn't it, he drove fast to build a lead on Friday and got some damage but he made it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Yesterday and today he was controlling it and got some damage today, but didn't make it.
Sad for Neuville but here is the place that reliability counts most and Hyundai just havent got it.
Happy for Toyota whose cars have been pretty solid for a while now and appropriate they win here with their great Safari Rally history.
M-Sport have done a great job here too with a skeleton engineering crew. Their young drivers have stuck to the plan and been rewarded with the Fourmaux stage win and good points.
Yes, in general, Neuville and Adamo interfere with Hyundai. They are both narcissists
suspension have changed since Friday,so nothing to do the Friday punctures with todays suspension collapseQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
There are not many racing drivers who aren't to the slightest degreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ds3
explain please.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Every champ has narcissistic qualities... Every single one. It's part of the game.
I was talking about interviews and those seems to be role-play for me. Why to "argue" with something with different topic? Two out of context comments in row.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
And on time - no over-play interview from Adamo.
Not surprised Hyundai handed yet another win to Ogier. Their cars are just too fragile, you can't win championships like that. Neuville and Tanak are not dumb, they know how to win rallies and how to lift, but they can't do much if the car breaks down for every small thing.
Same for Ogier being super smart... he is very consistent, but what's so smart in just driving and waiting for the Hyundais to DNF without the drivers even committing big mistakes? Hardly a genius "strategy".
What a boring championship...
The problem is not adamo, nor neuville nor any other driver. If the rear wheels fall off every single rally, often mutiple times, that's a problem with the design.
So the problem is the people responsible for the technical side. Either the design is wrong, the quality control is not good enough or they don't replace parts often enough.
But since its not only the rear suspension but other things that should never happen, like Tanaks windscreen heating, i asssume it's mostly a problem with quality control checks.
Tänak and Neuville should go flatout all the time. The car only breaks when they're in comfortable lead and taking it easy.
Yeah seems that people are searching for drama and to make a story but there is really none here. Katsuta knows his place is secured in the team with such performances but he's not fighting for the championship. A 2nd is great, would be stupid for him to fight Ogier and risk anything.
Oliver in All Live Sweden broadcast on SVT.
you don't make t to to world championship level of any sport without a huge amount of narcissism and self-confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm