[WRC] Arctic Rally 2021

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27th February 2021, 16:15
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by masa90

No I meant how did Oliver reportadly love his glasses? Sounds really weird?

Aha, no idea. He only said he lost his glasses and didn't see much.
27th February 2021, 16:15
Fast Eddie WRC

Neuville flying - saved the tyres ?
27th February 2021, 16:15
EstWRC

man Neuville is mashing it, 8 secs faster in spl3 than anybody else
27th February 2021, 16:16
Fast Eddie WRC

Suninen had new front tyres.
27th February 2021, 16:16
itix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tauri_J

2nd on the road lol

Yeah... It's Ogier though. If someone can pull a rabbit out of the hat, it's him.
27th February 2021, 16:17
itix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

Neuville flying - saved the tyres ?

He was quite convinced he had destroyed them on the first stage of the loop.
27th February 2021, 16:19
jonkka

Ogier's off means he won't be leading championship. As things stand now and without PS points, Kalle would be the championship leader.
27th February 2021, 16:19
Fast Eddie WRC

Colin Clark warned where Ogier went off

https://twitter.com/i/status/1365710373740027904
27th February 2021, 16:21
itix

This reminds me of the last memory I I have of Ogier doing a small error and getting stuck in the snow bank.

Sweden, 2019 (?), in the Citroen. Laughing at himself in front of the cameras saying "just me playing with my shovel" while digging his car out.
27th February 2021, 16:21
EstWRC

what a ride by Thierry
27th February 2021, 16:21
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by itix

He was quite convinced he had destroyed them on the first stage of the loop.

Maybe just played a mind game.
27th February 2021, 16:23
itix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Maybe just played a mind game.

Doubt it given the words he used but I could be wrong.
27th February 2021, 16:25
denkimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by itix

He was quite convinced he had destroyed them on the first stage of the loop.

That could be correct. But others might have destroyed them even more.
27th February 2021, 16:25
dupanton

Kalle just said Thierry saved 1 new tyre for the final stage ;)
27th February 2021, 16:25
er88

Such a monster of a time from Thierry. Superb
27th February 2021, 16:29
AnttiL

Ogier finished the stage and is on the road section
27th February 2021, 16:29
EstWRC

and Thiery fastest today with this monster stage https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/697...ox-2021/?leg=2
27th February 2021, 16:30
dupanton

Ogier got out and to the finish, but lost almost 20min. He should have retired, would have only lost 10min...
27th February 2021, 16:30
Rally Hokkaido

Quote:

Originally Posted by itix

Yeah... It's Ogier though. If someone can pull a rabbit out of the hat, it's him.

Don't know about a rabbit, but he managed to pull his car out of the bank..amazing!
27th February 2021, 16:31
denkimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by dupanton

Ogier got out and to the finish, but lost almost 20min. He should have retired, would have only lost 10min...

At first i thought the same. But then, why would he? 10 or 20 minutes will not make any difference.
27th February 2021, 16:32
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by dupanton

Ogier got out and to the finish, but lost almost 20min. He should have retired, would have only lost 10min...

He can still retire however if he let the car where it was some late runner could hit it and destroy and he wouldn't be able to restart. Plus I guess they weren't very comfortable outthere in the cold :)
27th February 2021, 16:34
wwbroe

Did i see it wrong or did Seb didn't have helmet at end of stage?
27th February 2021, 16:35
EstWRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwbroe

Did i see it wrong or did Seb didn't have helmet at end of stage?

doesnt matter, another 400€ fine i guess

i would say its not a huge loss for him, he would have got 8 points before the off
27th February 2021, 16:35
itix

Is there any advantage to completing the stage over the super rally option?
27th February 2021, 16:36
onemanband

Quote:

Originally Posted by onemanband

There is no scenario where an engine with a flatter curve will not be better. But I still believe that with more optimized gearing in the more technical sections the driver can make a big part of the deficit up with his driving, setup, accurate gear changes etc. But if it is a fast rally where the drivers will be in top gear nearing the limiter for long amounts of time then there is absolutely nothing the driver can do.

For your S2000 point i think the best season to look at would be 2012 with Ogier in the Škoda Fabia. I had a quick look at EWRC-Results. His average speed was 1,9 lower in Greece and 1.73 in Finland than the leader. Not a massive difference. And the loss is not only from the lack of engine power for the S2000. As a counterpoint I would point to the ERC or national level in the S2000 or early R5 era where the N group cars could hang on with the much more nimble opponents on fast rallies like Estonia thanks to their superior top speed.

I must apologise, i misread the stat from EWRC-Results. The 1.9 and 1.73 are not average speed but seconds per km.
27th February 2021, 16:36
er88

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Originally Posted by itix

Is there any advantage to completing the stage over the super rally option?

He's not stuck out in the cold ;)
27th February 2021, 16:37
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwbroe

Did i see it wrong or did Seb didn't have helmet at end of stage?

This was also reported at Finnish rally radio.
27th February 2021, 16:38
itix

Quote:

Originally Posted by er88

He's not stuck out in the cold ;)

Hahahaha =D
True!
27th February 2021, 16:39
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by onemanband

I must apologise, i misread the stat from EWRC-Results. The 1.9 and 1.73 are not average speed but seconds per km.

It was 1,00 and 1,93 one year before (with Hänninen). But ok, let's agree to disagree ;)
27th February 2021, 16:41
wwbroe

Gryazin is taking fastest time on this stage, five seconds up on Lappi
27th February 2021, 16:43
Oliverk

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwbroe

Gryazin is taking fastest time on this stage, five seconds up on Lappi

Lappi did something last split. Lost 20 seconds
27th February 2021, 16:43
er88

I know they're only two rallies in, but is anyone else getting a bit tired with Neuville moaning about his co driver/intercom after every stage? Fair enough his tone is different, but when you do a stage time like that at least leave out any mention of the co-driver, or even praise him. Solberg has a new co driver, yet he's not mentioned it or moaned once.

Before Croatia, Neuville either needs to sort out his diff£r£nc£s with Gilsoul, or make it work with Martin/ find someone more suitable. He can't keep struggling/moaning about this
27th February 2021, 16:44
HarriK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliverk

Lappi did something last split. Lost 20 seconds

Spun and need to reverse.
27th February 2021, 16:45
EstWRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by er88

I know they're only two rallies in, but is anyone else getting a bit tired with Neuville moaning about his co driver/intercom after every stage? Fair enough his tone is different, but when you do a stage time like that at least leave out any mention of the co-driver, or even praise him. Solberg has a new co driver, yet he's not mentioned it or moaned once.

Before Croatia, Neuville either needs to sort out his diff£r£nc£s with Gilsoul, or make it work with Martin/ find someone more suitable. He can't keep struggling/moaning about this

+1.

he seemed to have changed at Monte, didnt complain there at all. here the same old again
27th February 2021, 16:45
wwbroe

Quote:

Originally Posted by er88

I know they're only two rallies in, but is anyone else getting a bit tired with Neuville moaning about his co driver/intercom after every stage? Fair enough his tone is different, but when you do a stage time like that at least leave out any mention of the co-driver, or even praise him. Solberg has a new co driver, yet he's not mentioned it or moaned once.

Before Croatia, Neuville either needs to sort out his diff£r£nc£s with Gilsoul, or make it work with Martin/ find someone more suitable. He can't keep struggling/moaning about this

He was not really moaning, but said that intercom is still not working perfectly
27th February 2021, 16:47
EstWRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwbroe

He was not really moaning, but said that intercom is still not working perfectly

bu im still wondering, they had a test here and rally in Estonia and still the problem?
27th February 2021, 16:49
wwbroe

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

bu im still wondering, they had a test here and rally in Estonia and still the problem?

Maybe it has indeed something to do with the change in helmet from Stilo to Bell?
27th February 2021, 16:52
TypeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

bu im still wondering, they had a test here and rally in Estonia and still the problem?

it depends on the stage times..
bad stage - bad intercom, good stage - no problems..
27th February 2021, 16:53
Mirek

Seems that Ogier really retired.
27th February 2021, 16:54
EstWRC

Kaur fastest in r5 class!!!!

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