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Ok let's go with your logic and presume Adamo has instructed Mikkelsen to be the slowest WRC driver, miles off the pace and lose like 30s a stage to the likes of Loeb. Whatever makes you feel better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Did Adamo make that instruction after seeing Mikkelsen perform really well in Argentina? And think nah that's not right, it's much wiser to instruct him to be miles off the pace instead ;)?
Evans moment on SS7 is at 2:32, he even starts shouting expecting a crash. Could have ended in nasty roll if the side kicked him up. He has a very similar small moment at 4:00 as well and still posted 3rd fastest time. Some nerves.
I have to agree that it looks a bit unlucky for Meeke that he rolled, could easily just have bounced off and carried on like so many others do...
1473/5000
"We drove well, we had a good rhythm in the stages. No fault, it's nickel, I have a good feeling with the car. I liked the second and third stages of the loop. We try to enjoy it, it was pretty good. I'm starting to understand how the Hyundai works. I feel pretty comfortable in it for now, let's hope it lasts. Differences with cars driven in the past? It's a bit in the way of riding. The Citroën required a little cleaner driving. You have to be a bit more aggressive with the Hyundai because it's slipping, "Loeb told our microphone.
The 45-year-old Frenchman also delivered his opinion on the violent accident in Neuville. "Thierry's exit happened at a pretty hot place. It's a very fast right turn. It would go to absolute depth, but it is located on a hump. The load shedding makes you lose grip. It's not far from going through, I think. I dropped the pedal a little too much. This is where we see the difference between the fiery, those who think more and the old. Meeke went to the bottom, Ogier had noticed perhaps thoroughly ... me I did not even imagine going to the bottom. I did not see her cabriole, I do not want to see her. We know that today's cars are solid. It is true that it is hot: one rolls all the same block in sometimes hostile places. They are solid, but not shatterproof, "analyzed Loeb with maturity.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...ext6AtSBjHAhEo
Lol is that Loeb effectively saying Meeke is a nutcase? Haha
Latvala's issue is in the Saturday highlights. Not easy to see much but he is not really off the road, but runs over some stone. Kinda reminded me of Solberg in Japan once upon a time.
For Meeke's off they don't show the moment he had 2 corners before that imo might have caused him to loose concentration, so go on onboards if you want to see it. Also for Evans moment they picked the worst camera.
dont really understand what he is saying.. referencing ogier meeke neville in one sentance.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
SS15 is on google streetview:
This is near start:
https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.006...7i13312!8i6656
mid way:
https://www.google.com/maps/@-37.010...7i13312!8i6656
Just before finish:
https://www.google.com/maps/@-36.980...7i13312!8i6656
This is effectively the same stage starting from 2:30Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvHLHQ3i18
But I'm most interested in SS14. Crazy fast stage on narrow roads with less camber.
Was wondering whether Ogier or Loeb should have an advantage. Ogier has some more experience with the car on gravel (Mexico) but last year the car didn't do well on these kind of stages. Hyundai should be good, but Loeb has not driven it on stages like that.
Very hard to predict.
That should be able to recognize on incar vids, then. I haven´t had the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Seems though he tried to go on but didn´t manage to get manual shifting work, or what did he try to do, standing aside of the stage?
Probably just trying to find out what's wrong. Not sure why he tried manual shift if the hydraulics weren't broken.
He went out to have a look around the car, then tried manual shifting...probably just didn`t know what was happening and started trying.
Driveshaft knocked around and broke something in the gear linkage somehow...?
I was looking on the available onboards and it's not easy to indentify. Attached is the only really clear picture from Meeke (who drove in front of him).
It is not the first two big rocks in the ditch, cause they are on exactly same spot and unmoved also when Ogier and Tanak pass after JML, and his "impact" happens noticeably later than the spot where these are.
There are possibly 2 white/light grey rocks just after them on the left side, but it's not easy to see from any other onboards. (Latvala's onboard in highlights has terrible quality so you can't see anything)
Note that Meeke does a correction on this place, first turning in too much and then correcting out just after the big rocks. It's on 3:35 on the onboard.
Those two rocks doesn´t seem to even be in the raceline... why should he´d driven on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
He didn't, read again.
Ok. My bad. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
With a warrior's mind found, and the big doubts of the Tour de Corse raised, the Alsatian driver has achieved a high quality afternoon, punctuated by a scratch allowing him to pick up at the heels of Sebastien Ogier.
At the service park tonight, and as this afternoon finally, the Hyundai driver has appeared with a very serene face and unprecedented confidence since his debut with Hyundai.
How was your day Sébastien?
"We did not have any problems. I attacked hard from the beginning to the end of the day, so I'm happy to be here after not making mistakes. The feeling is good, the car too, so I hope we can continue on a good pace tomorrow. "
How did you manage to accelerate the pace like that since the start?
"The key has been to find confidence in the rear end, to control the glide with this car and to simply make more miles to understand it. "
What do you think of tomorrow's specials?
"They are very different from today. We'll see what we can do. Tomorrow it will be very close and fast, it will take a lot of confidence in these specials, we'll see. They do not please me especially because there are many summits and it will really have to be in confidence.
Today, the stages were faster and faster, it's more in my style and I had a perfect feeling with the car so we had a good day. "
Wednesday night, you said that a podium would be beautiful for you. You're off to a good start.
"Yes, it would still be beautiful but it remains a complicated day before. We will see how we feel, and we will do the best. After the shakedown, I felt pretty bad, I did not know how to make time with the car, it took getting used to the driving style of the car. "
After your difficulties in Corsica, is it a kind of relief for you to play in front?
"It's definitely good to be in front. Being all the time behind is not the most fun so yes it's nice anyway. And it feels good to feel comfortable in the car and ride free. It was cool, the car is really good on the ground and I feel good. "
https://www.rallye-sport.fr/loeb-ca-...-detre-devant/
1194/5000
However, his situation remains very fragile since the French now has only five seconds ahead of his compatriot Sebastien Loeb, launched on a big pace since Friday afternoon. Not very talkative this afternoon, the gapençais made some extra efforts to respond to media solicitations.
How was this afternoon?
"It was better than this morning anyway, that's for sure. It's not fantastic either. We lose ten seconds from the last because of the conditions. "
How to explain this renewed performance?
"Once again, there were a lot of changes on the car for the afternoon, but I think our performance is really related to the level of grip. "
What are the profiles of the chronos of tomorrow?
"These are not easy specials. There is the Power Stage that is done twice with a lot of gravel in places, quite slippery, it looks a bit like the shakedown profile. The second is quite fast but the narrowest of the rally and a lot of skies, but not really bumps because it does not go fast enough. Like all weekends for us, there are still many unknowns. "
Will you change things on the car?
"We're going to think for tomorrow, but in the idea, the direction we took this afternoon was going in the right direction, so it will certainly be close. "
How did you approach the right where Thierry left this morning?
"It was a very fast-moving right in the sky that I had noted down to the bottom. On the first pass, I stopped him because the marshals slowed me down and in the second lap, I think I took it the least of all because I had not tested at all in the first lap and I am arrived with a report below. "
https://www.rallye-sport.fr/ogier-il...ses-inconnues/
Loeb greenlight to take risks and pass Ogier for second on Rally Chile
Hyundai World Rally Championship driver Sebastien Loeb has been given the green light to race his countryman Sebastien Ogier for second place during Sunday's Rally Chile finale.
When Loeb's team-mate Thierry Neuville crashed out of the South American event on Saturday morning, there was an expectation that Loeb would be asked to hold station through Sunday's final four stages.
Despite a 30-second cushion over fourth-placed Ford Fiesta WRC driver Elfyn Evans, Hyundai team principal Andrea Adamo told Autosport he wanted Loeb to push to usurp the five-second difference between him and reigning champion Ogier.
"I know we have points for the manufacturers' championship to think about, but the word [for Loeb] tomorrow is: push!" he said.
"OK, we have points for third, but you get more points for second."
Loeb's performance through Saturday has been one of the talking points of the rally, with the Frenchman's i20 Coupe WRC 13s faster than anybody else across the six stages.
Loeb said: "The pace I had today was really good, but Seb is also very fast.
"The stages tomorrow are different from today. They are more technical with a lot of crests.
"There is no room to make any mistakes. We will see.
"I am happy to be in this situation. If I can push and catch him it would be perfect.
Ogier added: "It's a big fight. He put in some really good times today. It will be interesting tomorrow."
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/143347
thats great to hear!
cant wait
https://twitter.com/DanosElena/statu...38848022650880
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6XSmlDWAAUfNAc.jpg
#Tyre info - Day 3 All the Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Medium (M6).
very very foggy and rainy, at least at service
big risks for both of themQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
strange that Adamo gave the greenlight to attack.
Or maybe just to put pressure to Ogier.
Hyundai needs points
Ogier needs points for his drivers championship
Lets see..
Maybe Adamo’s was deeply wishing to keep that P3 for manus points, but no one can ask the GOAT to slow down when he’s showing he still is a top player in the game. His progressing in this rally has been mind-blowing and this last day duel with Ogier will certainly be worthy to watch. Bring it on!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
On second thought it's not strange at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
- PR:
Loeb was taken in for results , car development feedback and for PR. Even if he crashes it will still be good PR. Headlines talking about how he was not allowed to attack would be the opposite.
- courting to Loeb:
After Corsica as Porter said, people were starting to wonder if it's really worth for him to do this. (also kind of mentioned in this interview on previous page). Now that he has shown he can drive the car fast on fast stages Adamo wants him to say yes to drive in Finland which didn't originally seem to be the plan.
conditions like friday, very damp
Maybe even more muddy and wetQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Easy bet for me - Loeb for 2nd.
Ogier a solid 3rd & go for PS points.
Mikkelsen already four seconds down on the first split...
Meeke sayin it was actually quite enjoyable
It is. For the first cars ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Loeb on the stage now
No grip says Lappi, Doesn't sounds promising for his team mate Seb.
Just like on Rally GB, Mikkelsen driving that Hyundai more sideways than a Mk2 Escort! Looks good, but blatantly where the time is lost...
Loeb fastest in first split!
Loeb opened the game with fastest first split
Le Frog!